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Old 01-08-2015, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I hate to say, but I told you so......

Of course the pro-drug media has been doing its very best to claim the opposite. Do not believe the lies.

Why is crime up? Same reason it went up in Holland. Legal drugs attract the scum. Unfortunately this is only the beginning. It will get worse.



Crime Is Up in Colorado: What That Tells Us About Pot Legalization and, Perhaps More Importantly, Lazy Reporting*|*Kevin A. Sabet, Ph.D.

Lately legalization advocates have been cheering numbers that show a decline in crime. There are literally hundreds of articles that have been written with this narrative. But an honest look at the statistics shows an increase -- not decrease -- in Denver crime rates.

Crime is tracked through two reporting mechanisms: the National Incident Based Reporting System (NIBRS), which examines about 35 types of crime, and the FBI Uniform Crime Reports (UCR). The FBI UCR only captures about 50 percent of all crimes in Denver, so the NIBRS is generally regarded as more credible. The Denver Police Department (DPD) uses NIBRS categories to examine an array of crime statistics, since it is the more detailed and comprehensive source of numbers.

The Denver Police statistics show that summing across all crime types -- about 35 in all -- the crime rate is up almost 7 percent compared with the same period last year. Interestingly, crimes such as public drunkenness are up 237 percent, and drug violations are up 20 percent.

So why are advocates claiming a crime drop? Easy: They blended part of the FBI data with part of the DPD/NIBRS data to cook up numbers they wished to see. When one picks the Part I data from UCR and uses DPD/NIBRS property-crime numbers only while studiously avoiding the DPD/NIBRS data on all other crimes, one can indeed manufacture the appearance of a decline. As one can see here, even when using the FBI UCR numbers -- in their entirety -- crime has risen.

 
Old 01-08-2015, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Year over year, 2013 to 2014, from Jan through November shows that most crimes were down in Denver.

http://www.denvergov.org/Portals/720...enses_2014.pdf
 
Old 01-08-2015, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Ace Rothstein View Post
Year over year, 2013 to 2014, from Jan through November shows that most crimes were down in Denver.

http://www.denvergov.org/Portals/720...enses_2014.pdf
You are proving the point made in the OP (creative / lazy reporting) The stats which you offer capture about 50% of the crimes committed.

You have been lied to.

Folks, this is how propaganda is used to influence public opinion.
 
Old 01-08-2015, 04:19 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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I think that pot heads would be too stoned to misbehave.
 
Old 01-08-2015, 04:35 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I think that pot heads would be too stoned to misbehave.
It is usually the crimes they commit to support the habit. Same with all the other legal/illegal drug addicts.
 
Old 01-08-2015, 04:36 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

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Old 01-08-2015, 04:38 PM
 
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And the puritans were outraged
 
Old 01-08-2015, 04:40 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
I hate to say, but I told you so......

Of course the pro-drug media has been doing its very best to claim the opposite. Do not believe the lies.

Why is crime up? Same reason it went up in Holland. Legal drugs attract the scum. Unfortunately this is only the beginning. It will get worse.



Crime Is Up in Colorado: What That Tells Us About Pot Legalization and, Perhaps More Importantly, Lazy Reporting*|*Kevin A. Sabet, Ph.D.

Lately legalization advocates have been cheering numbers that show a decline in crime. There are literally hundreds of articles that have been written with this narrative. But an honest look at the statistics shows an increase -- not decrease -- in Denver crime rates.

Crime is tracked through two reporting mechanisms: the National Incident Based Reporting System (NIBRS), which examines about 35 types of crime, and the FBI Uniform Crime Reports (UCR). The FBI UCR only captures about 50 percent of all crimes in Denver, so the NIBRS is generally regarded as more credible. The Denver Police Department (DPD) uses NIBRS categories to examine an array of crime statistics, since it is the more detailed and comprehensive source of numbers.

The Denver Police statistics show that summing across all crime types -- about 35 in all -- the crime rate is up almost 7 percent compared with the same period last year. Interestingly, crimes such as public drunkenness are up 237 percent, and drug violations are up 20 percent.

So why are advocates claiming a crime drop? Easy: They blended part of the FBI data with part of the DPD/NIBRS data to cook up numbers they wished to see. When one picks the Part I data from UCR and uses DPD/NIBRS property-crime numbers only while studiously avoiding the DPD/NIBRS data on all other crimes, one can indeed manufacture the appearance of a decline. As one can see here, even when using the FBI UCR numbers -- in their entirety -- crime has risen.

No different then alcohol consumption. People steal and rob to get their bottle of bourbon.
 
Old 01-08-2015, 04:45 PM
 
Location: planet octupulous is nearing earths atmosphere
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
I hate to say, but I told you so......

Of course the pro-drug media has been doing its very best to claim the opposite. Do not believe the lies.

Why is crime up? Same reason it went up in Holland. Legal drugs attract the scum. Unfortunately this is only the beginning. It will get worse.



Crime Is Up in Colorado: What That Tells Us About Pot Legalization and, Perhaps More Importantly, Lazy Reporting*|*Kevin A. Sabet, Ph.D.

Lately legalization advocates have been cheering numbers that show a decline in crime. There are literally hundreds of articles that have been written with this narrative. But an honest look at the statistics shows an increase -- not decrease -- in Denver crime rates.

Crime is tracked through two reporting mechanisms: the National Incident Based Reporting System (NIBRS), which examines about 35 types of crime, and the FBI Uniform Crime Reports (UCR). The FBI UCR only captures about 50 percent of all crimes in Denver, so the NIBRS is generally regarded as more credible. The Denver Police Department (DPD) uses NIBRS categories to examine an array of crime statistics, since it is the more detailed and comprehensive source of numbers.

The Denver Police statistics show that summing across all crime types -- about 35 in all -- the crime rate is up almost 7 percent compared with the same period last year. Interestingly, crimes such as public drunkenness are up 237 percent, and drug violations are up 20 percent.

So why are advocates claiming a crime drop? Easy: They blended part of the FBI data with part of the DPD/NIBRS data to cook up numbers they wished to see. When one picks the Part I data from UCR and uses DPD/NIBRS property-crime numbers only while studiously avoiding the DPD/NIBRS data on all other crimes, one can indeed manufacture the appearance of a decline. As one can see here, even when using the FBI UCR numbers -- in their entirety -- crime has risen.

those dang boozer drunks messing up everything!!!!

nice prohibitionist blog
 
Old 01-08-2015, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
You are proving the point made in the OP (creative / lazy reporting) The stats which you offer capture about 50% of the crimes committed.

You have been lied to.

Folks, this is how propaganda is used to influence public opinion.
http://www.denvergov.org/Portals/720...enses_2014.pdf

Here is the other set of data.

Murder
Aggravated Assault
Sex Offenses

All categories of crime that went down. I really don't give a **** about disorderly conduct or drug offenses.
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