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The 97% of the workforce that is being paid the market value of its labor should continue to be paid the market value of its labor, not some arbitrary higher number. And the 3% would be at risk of going to zero per hour, as their jobs become less economically viable and disappear.
Each person is free to set their own minimum wage. And each person has the opportunity to become more valuable to potential employers. Minimum wage criminalizes the sale of low skill labor for its market value, which has been a tremendous hardship for our poor. Give them a break, you heartless progressives!
All wages are arbitrary numbers, there is no set value to any labor, all that exists is that one must be paid above the minimum level. I believe each employer is free to set the wages of their workers, not the employees.
I think people who are arguing that minimum wage should be $15 an hour are shooting too low. Who can live on that? I think it should be more like $20. What do you think?
So now you you're looking to overpay the unskilled and still believe that the baby boomers killed the planet with greed.
All wages are arbitrary numbers, there is no set value to any labor, all that exists is that one must be paid above the minimum level. I believe each employer is free to set the wages of their workers, not the employees.
...and that is the root of your confusion. Each person chooses each working day whether or not to agree to that wage. If they show up and punch in, it is a mutually agreeable wage. This is a definitional, not up for debate. Wages are a mutual agreement: the employer has no means to compel an unwilling person to show up and punch in.
...and that is the root of your confusion. Each person chooses each working day whether or not to agree to that wage. If they show up and punch in, it is a mutually agreeable wage. This is a definitional, not up for debate. Wages are a mutual agreement: the employer has no means to compel an unwilling person to show up and punch in.
I guess in the sense if the employee wishes to be employed or unemployed, then yes they do have a choice. But you aren't going to be walking into your boss's office and telling him how much he should pay you and expect to just have him agree to pay you that much.
Of course you not showing up to work the agreed amount paid isn't going to encourage your employer to pay you more.
So, what you are saying is labor unions are ineffective?
In this country, labor unions are basically obsolete because only a small percentage of Americans are in unions. If we were like European countries, we wouldn't need a minimum wage because it would be decided by the negotiations of the labor unions.
In this country, labor unions are basically obsolete because only a small percentage of Americans are in unions. If we were like European countries, we wouldn't need a minimum wage because it would be decided by the negotiations of the labor unions.
I find it funny since most Americans earn more than state and federal minimum wage which, ironically, makes the federal minimum wage obsolete and irrelevant to their day to day life....and they've done this with out needing a union. BTW, you did not answer the question....
I find it funny since most Americans earn more than state and federal minimum wage which, ironically, makes the federal minimum wage obsolete and irrelevant to their day to day life....and they've done this with out needing a union. BTW, you did not answer the question....
So why so much fight when it comes to raising it? It shouldn't be a big deal to help out a small percentage of people who's wages are falling behind.
Falling behind what? The premise of your question is faulty, it assumes something that may not be true.
Sorry, I didn't realize I needed to explain to you what "falling behind" means. As inflation increases, those making the least see their spending power reduce. In order to prevent that from happening, the minimum wage need to be increased periodically so that minimum pay keeps up with inflation. In Oregon our minimum wage is tied to inflation.
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