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No cakes for all same-sex weddings. They're not picking and choosing which same-sex weddings for which they will or will not provide cakes.
No discrimination, just the Constitutional exercising of the business owner's religion, a First Amendment right just recently upheld by SCOTUS.
And do you strongly believe that a baker must be allowed to refuse to bake a wedding cake for a black and white couple, if he believes God said in the Bible that He did not want the races to mix?
And do you strongly believe that a baker must be allowed to refuse to bake a wedding cake for a black and white couple, if he believes God said in the Bible that He did not want the races to mix?
There is nothing in the Bible that supports that view. Quite the opposite is true with regards to homosexuality and marriage.
There is nothing in the Bible that supports that view. Quite the opposite is true with regards to homosexuality and marriage.
But homosexual marriage isn't banned in the Bible. The Bible is simply critical of homosexuals as sinners as it is for other types of sinners, such as adulterers. Yet, no one demands that adulterers should be banned from marrying.
I have an idea why don't you and Casper go to a Muslim bakery and ask for extra bacon to be put on your pizza. Then ask if they serve gay weddings???
Get back to us with those results, we got your back!
wow 33 pages about a friggin cake !!! and btw if you ever actually watch any of crowders videos on youtube you'd see he the same type of jackass as breitbart's o'keefe the same guy who wanted to prove voter fraud so badly he himself committed it!! So can we get this up to 40 pages or are the mods going to shut this stupid thread down already? Then after that is done we could get another 20 more threads about this and benghazi, maybe even throw in some more threads about pelosi or the guy who said guam will tip over or blah blah blah blah blahhhhhhhh..... COMMUNISTT!!!!!!
If the store sells things called wedding cakes. They can not tell the gay guy that he can not purchase one of those. That is in violation of anti-discrimination laws.
Anti-discrimination laws cannot trump closely-held corporations' (not publicly traded) owners' First Amendment right to exercise their religion. So ruled SCOTUS in the Hobby Lobby decision.
Publicly traded conglomerate owned bakeries, however, cannot refuse to bake a cake for a same-sex wedding.
Then how do you expect a baker's religious rights to be protected from gays, who pass as straight, and deceive him into selling them cakes for their weddings?
Unless it's an off-the-shelf wedding cake that anyone can pay for at the counter and carry out of the store, that's not likely to happen. When placing an order for a wedding cake (or contracting for any wedding goods/services), the couples names are submitted for the order.
And do you strongly believe that a baker must be allowed to refuse to bake a wedding cake for a black and white couple, if he believes God said in the Bible that He did not want the races to mix?
It's clear which religions and denominations prohibit same-sex marriage, so any additional hypotheticals are irrelevant. Furthermore, the issue of gay weddings is the topic of this thread.
Not hard at all for this one. Our laws must be applied equally regardless of a business owner's personal religious beliefs.
Wow. No. SCOTUS just ruled exactly the opposite in the Hobby Lobby ruling. HL does not have to provide insurance for contraceptive services for their employees, even though they are required to by the ACA law.
Reason: First Amendment right to exercise one's religion.
People are going after Christians because it's the evangelical Christian groups that are behind "religious freedom" laws that are veiled attempts at limiting gay rights. It's about those that are seeking to influence public policy. There's plenty of Muslims, Orthodox Jews, East Asian religions, atheists, and agnostics who might not like gays, but they're in general not the ones sponsoring legislation like the one in Indiana in question and they're not the ones who are mainly behind the pushback against gay rights and gay marriage in the US.
Please list the gay rights that would be limited...
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