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Old 04-06-2015, 09:01 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The point is the coverage covers ALL men and women, regardless of who will use it.
Just like HL does not provide those medications for anyone male or female, regardless of who would use it.
Just like SCOTUS has specifically ruled that HL doesn't have to provide those medications/devices to anyone because doing so violates HL owners' religion. Done deal.

 
Old 04-06-2015, 09:22 AM
 
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HIDDEN CAMERA: Gay Wedding Cake At Muslim Bakeries

...or do they get an Obama exemption?


Great debates. Hard for liberals.


hard for liberals? why. . because you have no understanding of the government you live in, or its bedrock rights?



Its pretty easy actually

1 - you can't refuse service to someone because of who they are, what they believe, who they have sex with, what they look like. not complicated. . and certainly not a liberal idea. . .


2 - You can refuse a specific request...I..e KKK asks you to bake a cake. . you can't turn them down because they are the KKK, you can refuse to show a burning cross and a bunch of black babies dead beneath it. You say "I can bake a cake, choose from these designs. . .or think of something more tasteful"



What I really wonder is where does "liberal" come into it. So what, you to limit the freedoms and benefits of our bill of rights? is that the conservative thing? throw out the constitution?

Liberal - I don't think it means what you think it means.



This freaking Video is absurd. The issue with the bakery and memories pizza. . is that they refused to serve a gay wedding. REFUSE a gay wedding no. REFUSE to put a gay couple on a cake. . thats fine.
 
Old 04-06-2015, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Just like SCOTUS has specifically ruled that HL doesn't have to provide those medications/devices to anyone because doing so violates HL owners' religion. Done deal.
And HL can not pick and choose which employees to provide it for, just like bakers can not pick and choose who to provide cake for.
 
Old 04-06-2015, 09:40 AM
 
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Well, I think the law should be applied equally to muslims, Christians, Jews, etc. The question is will it? I think it is quite valid.
Of course it will be. Why do you think it wouldn't?
 
Old 04-06-2015, 09:48 AM
 
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In this case, gay wedding cakes are not offered.
What if the gay couple wants to order a straight wedding cake? What then?
 
Old 04-06-2015, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Great Falls, Montana
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If activist gays and liberals didn't make such an issue over this then there wouldn't be the need for "33 pages about a friggin cake" -- or more. It's the far left, the activists, their in-your-face attitudes that create these issues. Why go to all that trouble to force a business to close down just because it's Christian?
You know you can get a cake someplace else. Why must it be this business and none other?

We all know it's not getting the cake that is the issue. It's forcing everyone to agree with you that is your issue. And the argument is carried to extreme, ridiculous examples by -- you guessed it -- the left.

"You MUST agree, or we'll force you out of business" is the goal. The fact that they trample on others' rights is immaterial to the intolerant gays and left leaning community.

Fascism .. ... Nothing new here .. called by any other name, it still is what it is ...
 
Old 04-06-2015, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Great Falls, Montana
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Funny, my insurance covers viagra, even though I will never need it.
Hee Hee ... yeah, and I'm a "50+ shipping and handling" years old male, and I'm just elated by the fact that I can take maternity leave if I want .. Proof to me that the Liberal Agenda is a one size fits all ... Bases being covered where there are no bases at all ... Imaginary conditions being covered here me thinks all for the sake of giving the insurance industry a huge pay day.
 
Old 04-06-2015, 11:30 AM
 
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And HL can not pick and choose which employees to provide it for
Just like bakers can't pick and choose for whom they'll bake a cake for a same-sex wedding. No cakes for all same-sex weddings = no discrimination.
 
Old 04-06-2015, 11:44 AM
 
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Just like bakers can't pick and choose for whom they'll bake a cake for a same-sex wedding. No cakes for all same-sex weddings = no discrimination.
Keep on telling yourself that.

The item is a wedding cake. By refusing to sell that cake to someone they are discriminating.
 
Old 04-06-2015, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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Just like bakers can't pick and choose for whom they'll bake a cake for a same-sex wedding. No cakes for all same-sex weddings = no discrimination.
No cakes for all Christian weddings = no discrimination. No cakes for all black weddings = no discrimination. But it's not like a baker is picking and choosing not to bake a cake when someone is Christian or black when the baker won't make a cake for either group at all!

See how much sense that makes! Sense in this line of thought = none.
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