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And once again, please provide examples of these religious bakers refusing to provide wedding cakes for divorced people marrying again. Also against biblical law.
Don't worry, I am already anticipating the tumbleweeds and silence....
Which is exactly the case with publicly traded corporation-owned bakeries. The government has a way that is less restrictive to accomplish their goals for the law via that means.
"In a 5-4 decision with a splintered dissent, the Supreme Court held that the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) cannot mandate a closely held corporation to violate the religious beliefs of its owner by providing four abortion-inducing drugs. Specifically, the court held that the Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993 requires the government to accommodate such corporations just as it does not-for-profit corporations because the contraceptive mandate substantially burdens the owners’ religious beliefs and there are less-restrictive means of providing contraception (the government can pay for it directly)."
You seem to be missing this part.
"In a 5-4 decision with a splintered dissent, the Supreme Court held that the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) cannot mandate a closely held corporation to violate the religious beliefs of its owner by providing four abortion-inducing drugs. Specifically, the court held that the Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993 requires the government to accommodate such corporations just as it does not-for-profit corporations because the contraceptive mandate substantially burdens the owners’ religious beliefs and there are less-restrictive means of providing contraception (the government can pay for it directly)."
You seem to be missing this part.
Were is the part about anti-discrimination laws?
They don't trump the First Amendment rights of closely held corporation owners when less-restrictive means of meeting the government's goals are available.
That is specifically true in the case of publicly traded corporation-owned bakeries. In such, the government has a way that is less restrictive to accomplish their goals.
Buy a wedding cake from any of them. They're beautiful:
Aside from the fact that your post is self-contradictory on at least two levels, it makes a lot of sense.
Mohammed's license?
Oops! Should have been likeness.
No contradictions in my post. If you offer a service to some, you must offer it to all. If you offer it to no one, you do not have to offer it to anyone.
There is no bigotry. None of the businesses being subjected to the lynch mob mentality have refused service to anyone. Nor, under the provisions of the laws which are suddenly so controversial, would they be permitted to deny anyone service. What they WOULD be permitted to do is to use religious belief as an argument in their defense in a discrimination lawsuit. The determination of such a lawsuit would remain firmly within the province of the presiding judicial authority. That is the way our legal system works. Allowing people to present an argument is not synonymous to accepting that argument as legally binding.
As usual, the LGBT forces are not interested in the law, in justice, or equality. Instead, they want to burn down the shops, scalp the proprietors, massacre their families, and sow salt in the fields of the flyover red states.
So to speak.
Nope, they just want to buy flowers, cakes, and photography services, just like heterosexual couples.
You keep using the term "protected class," and I don't think you actually know what that term means.
EVERYONE, by the way, is part of a protected class of some type. It simply means it's a characteristic for which you cannot be discriminated.
And, as a matter of fact, customers are pretty much whom original theories of "protected classes" sought to save from discrimination in interstate commerce. It's how the laws were sold as something Congress can and should address.
You will find a huge swath of case law on the equal protection clause and anti-discrimination laws deals with people refused service on account of their race, ethnicity, religion, sex, national origin. (Which, by the way, is what a "protected class" means).
In some states, including Washington, sexual orientation is also a protected class.
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Here is something you are not grasping: The first amendment right is not absolute. There are tons of restrictions on the right.
Answer the question: Where a Muslim person has a religious objection to serving unaccompanied women in their store, who do you think is going to win if that goes to suit?
And YES, the goods or services ARE being withheld because of the innate characteristics of the customer. It takes some awfully mealy mouthed mental gymnastics that even lawyers to argue otherwise... and even lawyers and justices would see right through it.
The Muslim store owner will lose, just like the taxi drivers did.
How can someone with a private business be forced to serve anyone?
Via laws.
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That is the can of worms I don't want to see opened.
The rest of us are cool with it.
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Personally, I think they're idiots. You shouldn't be in business if you cannot separate your personal feelings from making a profit. They are wrong, 100% wrong IMO. But how do we enforce this and remain a free society?
We fine them for violating laws under which they agreed to operate when they opened their business and ignore the people who are crying "but freedom!" because they're crying about losing a right they never had.
They will have to bake a cake for anyone that walks in the door with money to pay for it. Just like homophobic Kristians.
Apparently not. Only mainstream Christians are held acountable.
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