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Note the bolded parts. Wedding ceremony goods and services are readily available elsewhere via less-restrictive means.
Stop bullying people into violating their First Amendment rights. That alienates people from your cause.
Note the Chick-fil-A and Memories Pizza backfires.
Heard a report just yesterday that people formerly neutral in their view of gays are now re-evaluating that due to gays' attacks on Christian businesses and the generally negative impression for their vehemence and intolerance of some people's religious rights.
I've seen the courts rule against Muslims before in my state. Muslim taxi cab drivers wanted to have the right to throw anyone out of their cab who had alcohol in their possession, even in luggage. They lost that fight in court.
I believe the courts will hold Muslims to the same standards as Christians or Jews.
The "Muslim population" also includes that population of pretty much "non-religious" Muslims who are Muslim by heritage and culture (like my former co-worker, who liked strip clubs and alcohol and thought the concept of God was stupid, yet still observed Eid).
Much like how the Jewish population has a huge percentage of atheists and non-practicing.
And how the "number of Christians" in this country is similarly overstated.
That's not the issue.
Nevertheless, it does appear that the majority of all these non-practicing people tend to vote along liberal/Democrat/socialist lines and, in that respect, the voting % is not insignficant, as it was suggested.
Heard a report just yesterday that people formerly neutral in their view of gays are now re-evaluating that due to gays' attacks on Christian businesses and the generally negative impression for their vehemence and intolerance of some people's religious rights.
Sure you did. I heard a report yesterday that Jesus is opening a B&B with Warren Buffet myself.
If you sell a good or service, it is discrimination to withhold that good or service from someone on account of innate characteristics.
Goods and services aren't being withheld on account of anyone's innate characteristics. They're being declined because of the First Amendment's Religious Freedom right to do so.
Furthermore, not all goods/services are being withheld. The businesses in the spotlight sell to and serve gays in nearly every other circumstance.
Heard a report just yesterday that people formerly neutral in their view of gays are now re-evaluating that due to gays' attacks on Christian businesses and the generally negative impression for their vehemence and intolerance of some people's religious rights.
Doesn't surprise me at all. Bullies are seldom respected.
Many customers belong to a protected class. That applies before they buy the stupid cake, while they're buying the stupid cake, and after they buy the stupid cake. It applies even if they don't buy a cake.
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And it wasn't a "little fit." It was a valid First Amendment objection which was upheld by SCOTUS.
It was a right-wing hissy fit over a trivial nothing, and certainly irrelevant to the issue at hand.
Goods and services aren't being withheld on account of anyone's innate characteristics. They're being declined because of the First Amendment's Religious Freedom right to do so.
Furthermore, not all goods/services are being withheld. The businesses in the spotlight sell to and serve gays in nearly every other circumstance.
Here is something you are not grasping: The first amendment right is not absolute. There are tons of restrictions on the right.
Answer the question: Where a Muslim person has a religious objection to serving unaccompanied women in their store, who do you think is going to win if that goes to suit?
And YES, the goods or services ARE being withheld because of the innate characteristics of the customer. It takes some awfully mealy mouthed mental gymnastics that even lawyers to argue otherwise... and even lawyers and justices would see right through it.
I've seen the courts rule against Muslims before in my state. Muslim taxi cab drivers wanted to have the right to throw anyone out of their cab who had alcohol in their possession, even in luggage. They lost that fight in court.
I believe the courts will hold Muslims to the same standards as Christians or Jews.
And yet is it Christian shops that are screaming that their "religious beliefs" are being trampled because they have to sell all products and services to gays.
I wonder if they will be held to the same standard as the Muslims were.
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