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You always hear that buzzword being thrown around by Dems and liberals: progress. I think it's presumptuous to assume everything they do is progress, considering the failure rate of their policies.
Increased taxes: Progress
Abortion: Progress
Unbalanced budgets: Progress
Destroying the coal industry and its jobs: Progress
Wasting money on "green energy" investments with negative returns: Progress.
You always hear that buzzword being thrown around by Dems and liberals: progress. I think it's presumptuous to assume everything they do is progress, considering the failure rate of their policies.
Increased taxes: Progress
Abortion: Progress
Unbalanced budgets: Progress
Destroying the coal industry and its jobs: Progress
Wasting money on "green energy" investments with negative returns: Progress.
What else would they call it? No one would consider getting their way to be the opposite of progress. If the right banned abortions, they'd call it progress or a synonym of it.
And your bias makes the question impossibly to address. I mean, c'mon, you're first one is 'raise taxes.' That's not a liberal goal; it's the measure necessary to achieve the goal. One of those goals is balancing a budget. They think they solution is to raise taxes to afford all the things they want to spend on; and they means the government. The rights spends to, and for an example of that, look at the Bush administration. Until Obama came along, his presidency was defined by his irresponsible spending.
What else would they call it? No one would consider getting their way to be the opposite of progress. If the right banned abortions, they'd call it progress or a synonym of it.
And your bias makes the question impossibly to address. I mean, c'mon, you're first one is 'raise taxes.' That's not a liberal goal; it's the measure necessary to achieve the goal. One of those goals is balancing a budget. They think they solution is to raise taxes to afford all the things they want to spend on; and they means the government. The rights spends to, and for an example of that, look at the Bush administration. Until Obama came along, his presidency was defined by his irresponsible spending.
The Bushes aren't the right. The Bushes are big taxing, "voodoo economics"-deriding (and if you agree w/ the sentiment you'll only prove my point), abortion rights advocates (as is another prominent neocon (aka leftist Repub./Rockefeller Repub.), Mitt, who can be seen here at a PP fundy with Nicki Nichols Gamble):
What else would they call it? No one would consider getting their way to be the opposite of progress. If the right banned abortions, they'd call it progress or a synonym of it.
And your bias makes the question impossibly to address. I mean, c'mon, you're first one is 'raise taxes.' That's not a liberal goal; it's the measure necessary to achieve the goal. One of those goals is balancing a budget. They think they solution is to raise taxes to afford all the things they want to spend on; and they means the government. The rights spends to, and for an example of that, look at the Bush administration. Until Obama came along, his presidency was defined by his irresponsible spending.
Progressive is a proper noun. Why does the left get that term then? They're the ones who claim to own it.
But why does the right believe the following are good things:
- not allowing people to marry who they want?
- using the tax code to reward their favorites?
- filling up our prisons with people convicted of marijuana possession?
- supporting crony capitalism just as much as liberals do?
Progressive is a proper noun. Why does the left get that term then? They're the ones who claim to own it.
The right claims the term 'conservative' which means to preserve. The concept of progressivism is change; the left assumes the change will always be good, and under this logic, that's progress.
And if that's the best response to what I had to say, then I consider our debate effectively over. I provided points and you got nit-picky about the word.
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Originally Posted by VTHokieFan
You always hear that buzzword being thrown around by Dems and liberals: progress. I think it's presumptuous to assume everything they do is progress, considering the failure rate of their policies.
Increased taxes: Progress
Abortion: Progress
Unbalanced budgets: Progress
Destroying the coal industry and its jobs: Progress
Wasting money on "green energy" investments with negative returns: Progress.
So, by implication, I guess you believe conservatives always see the implementation of their views as regress, eh?
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