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Old 09-03-2015, 04:02 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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The various EU countries should put them on a plane for various Muslim nations around the world.
That is totally unrealistic. Not only would it take lots of planes, there would also be legal issues. One can't send Syrians back to a country where there is a civil war. And why would any other Muslim countries accept them? Just because a country is Muslim, does not mean it feels any more obliged to help Muslim refugees than a European country does. SA, Iran etc. want Syrian refugees as little as France or Greece does.
That whole Muslim brotherhood thingy is just empty talk, it only serves when bragging about the percentage of Islam in the world, but Muslim people as such care as little or even less about each other than people in the West do. There is no Muslim loyalty or whatever. Why does none of those filthy rich Arab countries help the Palestinians in Gaza etc.? There is also a lot of racism and tribalism among Muslims, Arab Muslims look down on black African Muslims for instance.
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Old 09-03-2015, 04:07 AM
 
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He demonstrates that moderate Muslims support stoning women and executing gays.

Then he asks if Western politicians should call such moderates "extremists."

His answer is "no."

And I agree.

They're not Muslim extremists.

All they are is Muslim.

And all Muslims should be expelled.

I've been saying that for a long time.

That is why I said earlier that US Americans don't know how lucky they are that their illegals are fellow Americans from Latin America, i.e. overwhelmingly Christians and atheists/agnostics from Latin America...
Despite the different language and food, they have similar values, whereas there is something inherently incompatible about Islam.
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Old 09-03-2015, 04:22 AM
 
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That is totally unrealistic. Not only would it take lots of planes, there would also be legal issues. One can't send Syrians back to a country where there is a civil war. And why would any other Muslim countries accept them? Just because a country is Muslim, does not mean it feels any more obliged to help Muslim refugees than a European country does. SA, Iran etc. want Syrian refugees as little as France or Greece does.
That whole Muslim brotherhood thingy is just empty talk, it only serves when bragging about the percentage of Islam in the world, but Muslim people as such care as little or even less about each other than people in the West do. There is no Muslim loyalty or whatever. Why does none of those filthy rich Arab countries help the Palestinians in Gaza etc.? There is also a lot of racism and tribalism among Muslims, Arab Muslims look down on black African Muslims for instance.
Not our problem.

Land the plane, shove them out, then leave.

If the countries try to shoot at the plane, clear the area with daisy cutters/cluster bombs/napalm.
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Old 09-03-2015, 04:24 AM
 
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That is why I said earlier that US Americans don't know how lucky they are that their illegals are fellow Americans from Latin America, i.e. overwhelmingly Christians and atheists/agnostics from Latin America...
Despite the different language and food, they have similar values, whereas there is something inherently incompatible about Islam.
I agree with you there.

But we need to deport all the illegals from Latin America as well.

Round 'em up and deport them.
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Old 09-03-2015, 04:49 AM
 
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Not our problem.

Land the plane, shove them out, then leave.

If the countries try to shoot at the plane, clear the area with daisy cutters/cluster bombs/napalm.
That's nonsense. Neither Europeans nor Americans can do that, and you should know it, frankly.
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Old 09-03-2015, 04:52 AM
 
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That's nonsense. Neither Europeans nor Americans can do that, and you should know it, frankly.
Yes, they can.

Who's going to stop them?

The UN?
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Old 09-03-2015, 04:56 AM
 
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Yes, they can.

Who's going to stop them?

The UN?
Especially in Europe they can't do it for legal reasons, UN conventions etc. Refugees enjoy a special status, which has to be determined first, which takes time...
Not even in the US do they do it that way, although the US receives just a small fraction of the world's refugees, i.e. most illegals there are not refugees, but simply economic migrants looking for a better life.
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Old 09-03-2015, 05:09 AM
 
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No one has to pay any attention to the UN or treaties if they don't want to.

When it comes to international affairs, Might still makes Right.

Just ask Vladimir Putin.

Is the UN stopping him? A treaty? A convention?
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Old 09-03-2015, 05:23 AM
 
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Well, as far as I know there are sanctions in place.
And in the case of Russia things are not even clear, but quite messy with accusations, but little to no evidence.
Now, if say France did what you suggest, it would break conventions and everyone would know it.
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Old 09-03-2015, 06:12 AM
 
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Especially in Europe they can't do it for legal reasons, UN conventions etc. Refugees enjoy a special status, which has to be determined first, which takes time...
Not even in the US do they do it that way, although the US receives just a small fraction of the world's refugees, i.e. most illegals there are not refugees, but simply economic migrants looking for a better life.
Crazy times we are living in. This could usher in another dark age for Europe.
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