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Old 06-05-2015, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Fairfield of the Ohio
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Originally Posted by Zimbochick View Post
Duggar-style counseling does not inspire me with confidence. Any legitimate counselor is a mandatory reporter, so there would have been a report filed with someone other than the kiddie porn cop.

Where did you see that reported?

Mowing the lawn is not counseling.
How do you think the DHS got involved?
The girls talked about going thru DHS interviews.

 
Old 06-05-2015, 07:35 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Originally Posted by sspistol View Post
My proof is that they said it. So until someone proves them wrong, I'll take their word for it. So go ahead and prove that there was not counseling. I'll wait.
 
Old 06-05-2015, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Fairfield of the Ohio
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You need to slap your head. Hard. The girls are now discussing the extensive professional therapy that they and Josh rec'd. But I guess they are lying too since the parents were in your eyes. I'll wait for you to prove they are all lying.
 
Old 06-05-2015, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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You need to slap your head. Hard. The girls are now discussing the extensive professional therapy that they and Josh rec'd. But I guess they are lying too since the parents were in your eyes. I'll wait for you to prove they are all lying.
Where are they discussing this?
 
Old 06-05-2015, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Originally Posted by sspistol View Post
How do you think the DHS got involved?
The girls talked about going thru DHS interviews.
Department of homeland security?

I don't think that they do general child abuse cases, so they?

CPS ( child protective services) didn't investigate as far as I know.
 
Old 06-05-2015, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Fairfield of the Ohio
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Where are they discussing this?
The second part of the M. Kelly's interview.
 
Old 06-05-2015, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Fairfield of the Ohio
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Department of homeland security?

I don't think that they do general child abuse cases, so they?

CPS ( child protective services) didn't investigate as far as I know.
It's the department of human services in their state.
 
Old 06-05-2015, 08:15 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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No, if he was any other 14 year-old who touched his sisters inappropriately nothing of the sort would happen. The big difference is you wouldn't know about it. I keep throwing this out there but the research has repeatedly shown that minors that are caught engaging in sibling sexual abuse have a 3-4% recidivism rate. It is still lower for cases that do not involve penetration or oral genital contact. That is not my opinion, that is what the research shows. That does not justify what he did, but it needs to be put in its proper perspective.
Of course not at that time because few 14 year olds have kids. It does not matter what statistics you throw out a molester has no business being around children to make the temptation greater. You do not know that Josh Duggar does not have those desires anymore maybe he doesn't but it is just giving him oppurtunity to molest again. This is why convicted sex offenders are not allowed near schools or playgrouds.
 
Old 06-05-2015, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Originally Posted by sspistol View Post
The second part of the M. Kelly's interview.
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J. B. DUGGAR: Right. At that point, that's when we pulled him out of the house and we said, he can't be here. And so, we pulled him out and then, he went through working with that man --

KELLY: Yes. He goes through counseling.

J. B. DUGGAR: Yes.

KELLY: And then when he was done with the counseling, this is not like a licensed therapist, it's somebody, a Christian-based --

J. B. DUGGAR: Christian based. But I'll tell you why.
So not LICENSED therapist. A home renovation with a friend.

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KELLY: The real licensed therapist counseling?

M. DUGGAR: All of our children received professional counseling, including Josh. After this, all of our children received professional counseling, including Josh, who paid for his own counseling himself.

J.B. DUGGAR: It was an accredited professional counselor.
Yet an accredited counselor would have had to report molestation to the authorities. But it was Oprahs staff that reported it.

Exclusive: The Duggars open up about molestation allegations on 'The Kelly File' | Fox News
 
Old 06-05-2015, 08:30 PM
 
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I saw two well adjusted young adult women who firmly stated they had forgiven their brother, dealt with it and moved on--a long time ago. It is obvious they harbor no anger or ill feelings toward him today. It seems clear to me that the release of the records has traumatized them far in excess of what they experienced 12 years ago.

Yes, my perceptions are all subjective but so is everyone else's. I'm basing mine on what I saw, heard and perceived from the interview. The schadenfreuders here are basing theirs on their own negative opinions of the Duggars and pure conjecture.
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