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Old 06-18-2015, 06:46 AM
 
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Deflection request denied.

I am addressing your conclusion, which is clearly not scientific and is wildly exaggerated to the point of almost being silly.

You invoked the idea of conspiracies and did so in a clearly misleading way, so I want to make sure anyone who is reading this is aware of that. So, I am asking you again:

First, a definition from the Merriam Websters dictionary:

Conspiracy - noun con·spir·a·cy \kən-ˈspir-ə-sē\ : a secret plan made by two or more people to do something that is harmful or illegal

How often do you believe that humans work together towards an end that they do not want others to know about, that is illegal or arguably harmful to someone in some way? Is it:
A. Constantly and in large numbers (More than a thousand groups of people conspiring at any one time)
B. Frequently, but in not very large numbers (Less than a thousand groups of people conspiring at any one time)
C. Occasionally, with significant gaps of time existing when there are NO conspiracies occurring anywhere on the planet Earth.
D. Never
{Hint: The Answer is A. People do this all this time}

Please spare us the Deflection, Denial and Denigration tactics and let's just have a straight discussion about this, can we?
You are unable to address the science, so you continue with the deflections.

 
Old 06-18-2015, 06:50 AM
 
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You are unable to address the science, so you continue with the deflections.
You are the one who started talking about conspiracies, and now all of the sudden you are not so sure of yourself anymore. LOL.
 
Old 06-18-2015, 06:52 AM
 
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Come on guys. Stop wasting your energy battling silly strawmen and parroting tabloid and blog pseudoscience:

Learn about the science and address it:

Here's an easy place to start:

https://royalsociety.org/policy/proj...idence-causes/
 
Old 06-18-2015, 06:56 AM
 
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Come on guys. Stop wasting your energy battling silly strawmen and parroting tabloids:

Learn about the science and address it:

Here's an easy place to start:

https://royalsociety.org/policy/proj...idence-causes/
Are you ready to concede that conspiracies are not uncommon among humans? You are not running away from your words because they are unscientific and unfactual, are you?
 
Old 06-18-2015, 06:56 AM
 
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You are the one who started talking about conspiracies, and now all of the sudden you are not so sure of yourself anymore. LOL.
Heh?

You're the one claiming mainstream science is wrong. So you must think there is some massive conspiracy involving tens of thousands of scientists, universities, science institutions, governments, private research organisations, and academic publishers all over the world all faking data (and the laws of physics) for the past 50 years or so.
 
Old 06-18-2015, 07:06 AM
 
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Heh?

You're the one claiming mainstream science is wrong. So you must think there is some massive conspiracy involving tens of thousands of scientists, universities, science institutions, governments, private research organisations, and academic publishers all over the world all faking data (and the laws of physics) for the past 50 years or so.
And you must think that Barack Obama is your messiah, as you clearly desire to bear his children.

As long as we are apparently pulling stuff out of our A__'s now, I thought I would join in with you and play along.

Neverthless, that you refuse to address this simple question in an honest way speaks volumes. Here it is again, so there will not be any confusion about what I am referring to here:

First, a definition from the Merriam Websters dictionary:

Conspiracy - noun con·spir·a·cy \kən-ˈspir-ə-sē\ : a secret plan made by two or more people to do something that is harmful or illegal

How often do you believe that humans work together towards an end that they do not want others to know about, that is illegal or arguably harmful to someone in some way? Is it:
A. Constantly and in large numbers (More than a thousand groups of people conspiring at any one time)
B. Frequently, but in not very large numbers (Less than a thousand groups of people conspiring at any one time)
C. Occasionally, with significant gaps of time existing when there are NO conspiracies occurring anywhere on the planet Earth.
D. Never
{Hint: The Answer is A. People do this all this time}

Please spare us the Deflection, Denial and Denigration tactics and let's just have a straight discussion about this, can we?
 
Old 06-18-2015, 07:09 AM
 
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Are you ready to concede that conspiracies are not uncommon among humans? You are not running away from your words because they are unscientific and unfactual, are you?
So you DO concede that you really believe there is some massive conspiracy involving tens of thousands of scientists, universities, science institutions, governments, private research organisations, and academic publishers all over the world all faking data (and the laws of physics) for the past 50 years or so.
 
Old 06-18-2015, 07:11 AM
 
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So you DO concede that you really believe there is some massive conspiracy involving tens of thousands of scientists, universities, science institutions, governments, private research organisations, and academic publishers all over the world all faking data (and the laws of physics) for the past 50 years or so.
So you DO concede that you regard Barack Obama as your messiah, and that you desire to bear his children.
 
Old 06-18-2015, 07:11 AM
 
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So you DO concede that you really believe there is some massive conspiracy involving tens of thousands of scientists, universities, science institutions, governments, private research organisations, and academic publishers all over the world all faking data (and the laws of physics) for the past 50 years or so.
When you can't produce any facts conspiracy is the only alternative theory remaining, this has to be the mother of all conspiracys.
 
Old 06-18-2015, 07:12 AM
 
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And you must think that Barack Obama is your messiah, as you clearly desire to bear his children.
I'm Australian. I'm interested in the science. I'm not interested in your weird US political ideology games.

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Please spare us the Deflection, Denial and Denigration tactics and let's just have a straight discussion about this, can we?
When you stop with the Deflection, Denial and Denigration tactics, give up your conspiracy theories and tabloid pseudoscience, put aside your political (or religious) ideology, and actually learn the basics about the science.... then we might be able to have a straight discussion. I don't see that happening any time soon.
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