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By definition "settlers" pushed Indians off the land and reduced their hunting grounds. The expanding frontier of 'civilization' was the scene of many battles, attacks, and massacres.
It was the same things different tribes would also do to each other.
I know you probably subscribe to this mindset of a bunch of Native Americans living in perfect harmony with each other, but that actually wasn't reality. Just like their European cousins, they would also take advantage of those with less power in order to gain resources.
First off, NOBODY ever said the Native Americans named that island Squaw Island or called it that. We've specifically said that it was named with a Native American word that means "woman". Guess what, we're not calling the vast majority of places in the US by the names of what Native Americans called them, the Europeans and then Americans gave most places their names, and that is what we go by.
I'm not taking a stand that the local officials can't rename an island when a few people with nothing better to do decides this is their newest outrage. I'm pointing out how stupid it is that anyone is outraged with something like the place being called Squaw Island.
But, you're right, I can't get over how many times I see the KKK and other hate groups going around with "Squaw" on signs. It truly is the big derogatory word of the day. {Sarcasm off}
Once again, we can we start the campaign to have the word "taco" removed from restaurant menus?
Again, what does it matter if people where you don't live what to change the name of a place you don't live anywhere near matter to you? You could petition to have the word "taco" removed from where you live if you like if for some reason the word "taco" offends you.
Oh good, it was named before any Native Americans were slaughtered....that makes it so much better. Seriously, it is just an island, names change from time to time, if the people who live there now feel the name should be changed, it is none of anyone else's business.
And we have the right to say that such changes are being done in the name of goofy PC craziness. It's happening because some people looking for their next cause were able to located something for which they could be outraged.
And we have the right to say that such changes are being done in the name of goofy PC craziness. It's happening because some people looking for their next cause were able to located something for which they could be outraged.
Like being outraged of an island you have probably never heard of or been to being renamed?
By definition "settlers" pushed Indians off the land and reduced their hunting grounds. The expanding frontier of 'civilization' was the scene of many battles, attacks, and massacres.
From both sides and not from all individuals on either side. There are good people and there are bad people. No race or civilization has a corner on either.
The Americas was not a garden of Eden before whitey arrived. Whitey just added some more fuel to a fire that had burning a long, long time. The only real significant difference is that whitey had superior firepower and technology. Human psychology was not significantly different as far as being "warlike."
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Once again, we can we start the campaign to have the word "taco" removed from restaurant menus?
"Egg Roll" has got to go as well. Pretty derogatory slur.
It was the same things different tribes would also do to each other.
I know you probably subscribe to this mindset of a bunch of Native Americans living in perfect harmony with each other, but that actually wasn't reality. Just like their European cousins, they would also take advantage of those with less power in order to gain resources.
that's not true in this case. The Seneca is a member nation of the Iroquois confederacy as are the Mohawks. A union of 5 tribes who maintain the oldest working democracy on the planet. We added the Tuscarora in 1722 to make it 6 tribes. We lived in harmony for centuries before the white man showed up. Your constitution was a direct cut and paste of our great law. All the Iroquois Chiefs were invited to attend the first continental congress in Philadelphia by George Washington, John Adams and Benjamin Franklin. We provided valuable input in the formation of this nation which remains the foundation of your governing principles to this day.
To portray us as brutal savages who went around slaughtering each other is totally false and I will not let that stand. I will respond to every post you make claiming such conduct on our part. So you better start providing indisputable proof for your claim of Indian savagery prior to the euros.
The Indian slaughters came about after the white euros came, took the land and pushed the remaining natives westward into other native's sovereign territory. It was then fight or die for both tribes. a brilliant strategy to effect the euros extermination of our race.
From both sides and not from all individuals on either side. There are good people and there are bad people. No race or civilization has a corner on either.
The Americas was not a garden of Eden before whitey arrived. Whitey just added some more fuel to a fire that had burning a long, long time. The only real significant difference is that whitey had superior firepower and technology. Human psychology was not significantly different as far as being "warlike."
"Egg Roll" has got to go as well. Pretty derogatory slur.
What you just said is patently false and complete BS. You know less than nothing about my culture, my history or the past as it concerns American Indians prior to the white man.
For the record, I'm very familiar with the recent ruling of the Squaw Island name change. It was suggested, the local governing body took up the issue and made the change. There were no protests or sign waving. No sit ins or anything. no different than Phoenix renaming the biggest mountain in town Piestawa Peak instead of Squaw peak. It was suggested, put to a vote by the city council and adopted. No protest, no pushback.
To portray us as brutal savages who went around slaughtering each other is totally false and I will not let that stand. I will respond to every post you make claiming such conduct on our part.
ROFLMAO. Actually I portrayed Native Americans as humans that do what humans have done for centuries.
Sorry, if I had to bring in reality and discuss the FACT that tribes fought each other over resources well before the arrival of Europeans.
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