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Old 07-17-2015, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Originally Posted by chicagogeorge View Post
No, of course not.




One is legal murder and the other is illegal murder? You can't have it both ways. Irregardless whether a mother wants a doctor to do it, or whether a prowler breaks into her home and night and does it


Many on the Pro choice side object to fetal homicide laws


http://www.ncsl.org/research/health/...tate-laws.aspx
It's the same theory as capital punishment.
Legal when the state does it, not legal when the guy down the street does it.

 
Old 07-17-2015, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Then maybe that imbecilic twit should learn to keep her damn legs closed.
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Originally Posted by TexasLawyer2000 View Post
Your moral compass, alone, does not apply when living in a society. It is up to the societal body to determine that is morally acceptable or not. Many would consider it immoral to have sex and create life, and then choose to kill it. State laws as determined by society's collective moral compass is what matters.

If you don't want a living being growing in you, simply don't have sex. It's that simple.
Is it that simple?
I read about a horrible case in Paraguay where a 10 year old child was impregnated by her step-father and is being forced to bring the pregnancy to term.
Doesn't seem to matter how much harm this may inflict on this child's body or mental state.
I guess that will teach her for not keeping her legs closed, huh?
 
Old 07-17-2015, 06:51 AM
 
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Ya know, there aren't many pro-life activists that adopt children from the lower socioeconomic mother of different race.

Just an observation.

Mick
 
Old 07-17-2015, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Atlantis
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Ya know, there aren't many pro-life activists that adopt children from the lower socioeconomic mother of different race.

Mick
Wrong.

Children like that are indirectly adopted and paid for with tax dollars.
 
Old 07-17-2015, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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Of course they do, plenty of science to back it up.

Doesn't matter to the sick sonsabitches though that can gleefully chomp their way thru an lunch casually taking about harvesting the organs and tissues of the little murdered souls.

Slavery used to be the law of the land at one point. Sanctioned murder of innocent fetuses and harvesting their flesh for profit is the current law De rigueur.
Actually, selling body parts is still illegal. They can be donated, with the consent of the donor, but not sold just because they're lying around.

Please bare in mind, not everyone who is pro-choice is invested in anything Planned Parenthood or it's employees think, do, or say.

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To me it sounds very contradictory. If a fetus is not human (at that stage) then how can it possibly be murder? Consent or not.
Ehh...

Pulling the plug with medical consent isn't murder despite that being one person literally shutting down what keep another person alive. However, if some random lunatic broke into random hospital rooms and shut off people's life support, that would be murder, despite the action and outcome being exactly the same in both situations.

Intent does matter. Even in murder. It's why we have different degrees of murder, as well as a manslaughter charge.
 
Old 07-17-2015, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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Ok, thanks for elaborating, though I kinda disagree that you'd remember feeling the pain. I don't remember "feeling" any type of specific pain from like before age 5, though it's obvious I, like everyone else did.

If you don't remember it, likely didn't happen, or its irrelevant if it happened, isn't it.
 
Old 07-17-2015, 08:50 AM
 
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The OP has clearly made his decision regarding this question. Can this thread be closed?
 
Old 07-17-2015, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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^^


If abortion isn't considered murder, then why have there been charges of double murder/homicde when a mother and her unborn child/fetus died?

Just curious?
Perhaps you may want to look at the cases where this happened and see what time frame the Pregnancy was in at the time of the Murder.
 
Old 07-17-2015, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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Oh I get it, you don't feel pain until your first memory.

Did your ankle hurt if you don't remember spraining it?

Tell me, How many things are you aware of that you don't remember?
 
Old 07-17-2015, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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It doesn't mean that a fetus doesn't feel pain. While being aborted or birthed.

"Remembering" isn't the point.

So really, what is your point?
So if you don't remember seeing one, or no one else has ever remembered seeing one, a Fairy or Unicorn may still exist, because you assume so?

Perhaps you should tell us what your "Point" is and what you base your opinions on, besides a Religious belief? Always open to some facts here, so throw a few our way, as to what you have as a fact, to substantiate your claims?
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