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Old 08-11-2015, 09:49 AM
 
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I believe it was the Colorado mine that created the toxic chemicals, not the EPA.

This wouldn't be a story if the mine had taken responsibility for safely disposing of the toxic chemicals they created.

A very good comment at the end of the article relating to this event:
EPA confirms Colorado mine spill contains heavy metals - KOAA.com | Continuous News | Colorado Springs and Pueblo

The EPA created the toxic spill and the damage is a catastrophe that will effect millions of people, wildlife, food production, drinking water and the general environment for decades to come. These heavy metals are lethal in minute concentrations where even when the water turns clear the deadly toxins will still exist.
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Old 08-11-2015, 09:50 AM
 
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Every taxpayer who lives near or relies on that River should sue the EPA.
Agreed.
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Old 08-11-2015, 09:51 AM
 
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The mine was abandoned 100 years ago.
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Old 08-11-2015, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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The EPA created the toxic spill and the damage is a catastrophe that will effect millions of people, wildlife, food production, drinking water and the general environment for decades to come. These heavy metals are lethal in minute concentrations where even when the water turns clear the deadly toxins will still exist.
Good point! We need to close down factories and mines that create these toxic chemical that are lethal in minute concentrations!
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Old 08-11-2015, 10:12 AM
 
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Actually they are - Sunnyside Gold Corp, a subsidiary of Kinross Gold ($3.8 billion in revenue). Prior to this accident they had been fighting the EPA over having this are designated a superfund site, which would have put them on the hook for the cleanup.
I can't find any evidence that sunnyside gold corp was in existence 92 years ago.
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Old 08-11-2015, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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The groups opposing superfund status are the local towns and cities who rely on tourism and the river for their economy. Superfund status could potentially shut down all recreational river use.


That was in the news last night. I doubt highly that the mine owners from 1900 are still in business or that any company in mining would oppose superfund clean-up dollars.
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Old 08-11-2015, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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When a corporation has an accident they're ripped by the EPA, some rightfully so, but the EPA does it and all the head of the organization can say is that mistakes happen.
Your corporations are (in the words of Trump) not babies, they are killers.

This comment summarizes the entire situation:
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This mine was just one of hundreds of abandoned mining sites that have been left for the taxpayers to clean up. This kind of situation is what prompted the creation of the Superfund legislation, which required that companies declare all abandoned hazardous waste sites and pay into a fund to clean up the messes they've left behind. But during the Bush Administration, companies were absolved of the requirement that they pay into the Fund, and all they have to do is declare these sites to the EPA. The thing big mining companies do now is operate under a smaller subsidiary until they've exhausted a site, then sell it off (along with the liability for the site) to some temporary company that can go into bankruptcy. So We the People and our EPA have poisonous abandoned places all over the country that we're trying to clean up, while many of the people who profited from creating them try to cut funding for the very departments cleaning up their messes. Perhaps we should be giving props to the EPA that we don't see this kind of mishap from them very often, considering how many sites our corporate "citizens" have left behind.
EPA confirms Colorado mine spill contains heavy metals - KOAA.com | Continuous News | Colorado Springs and Pueblo
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Old 08-11-2015, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Good point! We need to close down factories and mines that create these toxic chemical that are lethal in minute concentrations!

Go through the house and get all your batteries to the recycle company. Turn off your AC and Fridge. Get rid of your car.

Pretty much every industry uses chemicals.

There isn't anything wrong with the EPA in general. What's wrong with the logic from the Left is that they still think every corporation is driven by profit and that any accident is intentional and requires big fines and penalties. The EPA and the ACE have made huge blunders and caused huge damage to the environment - this is just one incident - and they never take responsibility. And of course, it was always an "accident".
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Old 08-11-2015, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Go through the house and get all your batteries to the recycle company. Turn off your AC and Fridge. Get rid of your car.

Pretty much every industry uses chemicals.

There isn't anything wrong with the EPA in general. What's wrong with the logic from the Left is that they still think every corporation is driven by profit and that any accident is intentional and requires big fines and penalties. The EPA and the ACE have made huge blunders and caused huge damage to the environment - this is just one incident - and they never take responsibility. And of course, it was always an "accident".
What did companies do with all their toxic waste before the EPA was established?
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Old 08-11-2015, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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This thread reminds me of something. The EPA is being blamed for the toxic chemicals that a corporation created because the EPA didn't clean them up fast enough. Remember when the right blamed Obama for GWB's mess because Obama didn't clean it up fast enough?
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