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Old 09-18-2015, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida, Support our police
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Originally Posted by phetaroi View Post
I watched the video.

The billy club was unneeded in the situation...unless the cop is a sissy.

Let's see, hitting a kid in the face with a billy club "prevents further injury". Except then they had to throw him on the ground. So you're wrong.

And as a police officer, you don't know how to handle a kid.
I am not wrong. You have zero idea how this PO was trained. You have no idea why he had his club out. The kid grabbed his club. What would you like at this point? Again they took him to the ground. He refused to follow orders. What did they do to him on the ground? Did they punch and kick him? Or did they handcuff him. While I may not have handled the situation the same way it does not mean that these cops were wrong. So you are wrong! You know tons for a person that was never a cop.

 
Old 09-18-2015, 10:52 PM
 
Location: zooland 1
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What BS.. I didnt see any baton strikes by the officer ...but please do show me... because I didnt see them in the video I watched... is there another?
what I saw was a struggle over his baton and the kid got whacked... because he as pulling on it.. you see the officer back off.. pickup his bodycam and put it back on...radio for backup.. while keeping the crowd at bay.. if anything he showed good restraint

the kid then goes for the sympathy route..

Even when overwhelming force is there he still isnt complaint... give me a break...

Dont fight.. dont resist.. dont escalate

Just because some of you THINK that minor laws shouldnt be enforced doesnt mean they SHOULDNT be,, traffic safety laws such as jaywalking have strong reasons why they should be enforced... like keeping idiots from getting hit
 
Old 09-18-2015, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida, Support our police
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Originally Posted by phetaroi View Post
I watched the video.

The billy club was unneeded in the situation...unless the cop is a sissy.

Let's see, hitting a kid in the face with a billy club "prevents further injury". Except then they had to throw him on the ground. So you're wrong.

And as a police officer, you don't know how to handle a kid.
I watched the video again because I wanted to make sure I was correct in my assessment. 100% he was grabbing the cops night stick. He also pushed the PO. He was also told numerous times to stop resisting. If you watch the video he was taken to the ground by 4 PO's. He was handcuffed by three cops. So when he was resisting and they were going to arrest him what position would you like his body? 100% he would be going to the ground. If you are a police officer and someone has a hold of your night stick what would you do? No matter what they did you would find fault!!
 
Old 09-18-2015, 10:56 PM
 
Location: zooland 1
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Originally Posted by phetaroi View Post
I watched the video.

The billy club was unneeded in the situation...unless the cop is a sissy.

Let's see, hitting a kid in the face with a billy club "prevents further injury". Except then they had to throw him on the ground. So you're wrong.

And as a police officer, you don't know how to handle a kid.
Go to mens central jail in Los Angeles... go to the juvenile module.. watch the 80 or so hardcore murderers..robbers,, rapists,, all under 18..
and then tell me if you could handle some of them....
 
Old 09-18-2015, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida, Support our police
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Go to mens central jail in Los Angeles... go to the juvenile module.. watch the 80 or so hardcore murderers..robbers,, rapists,, all under 18..
and then tell me if you could handle some of them....
He was a principal. He is an expert on police procedures!!!!! LOL
 
Old 09-18-2015, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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...dont escalate...
How about the police not escalating? How about using some of those "talking people down" skills the police are supposed to have been trained in. Of course, it's much more fun to rough people up.
 
Old 09-18-2015, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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...No matter what they did you would find fault!!
And virtually no matter what they did you would NOT find fault. Because virtually all of your posts defend the police.
 
Old 09-18-2015, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Go to mens central jail in Los Angeles... go to the juvenile module.. watch the 80 or so hardcore murderers..robbers,, rapists,, all under 18..
and then tell me if you could handle some of them....
I have no doubt you're right. But this kid did not appear to be a "hardcore murderer", robber, or rapist.
 
Old 09-18-2015, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida, Support our police
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And virtually no matter what they did you would NOT find fault. Because virtually all of your posts defend the police.
He was told 5 times to stop resisting arrest and he was told 4 times to get on the ground before the other officers arrived and took him to the ground. He had every opportunity to listen but he made the decision that he was going to do what he wanted. So no I don't find that the PO's were wrong!
 
Old 09-18-2015, 11:24 PM
 
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Isn't resisting arrest against the law?

I would assume, if I were a cop, that if someone is resisting arrest then they have something to hide.
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