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Old 10-16-2015, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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You really don't know what you are talking about.

Females or packs with males who do not reproduce because of the dominate male being the only reproductive member take care of the new borns. If the dominate male is killed then either another male will become dominate or the female will continue taking care of the new borns. Not to mention that the animal to be hunted is preselected based on it being towards the end of its life to not impact the growth of the species.

Just look at the species counts, all the endangered and threatened animals have flourished under the trophy hunting programs because they fund the game wardens to ward off poachers. Plus the animals that are killed go to feeding the local populations, nothing it wasted, everyone wins including the specific species being hunted. Hunters are the original conservationists, they founded most of the conservation societies we have today.

You are out of your depth.
This is very true, but a lot of gun and hunting haters cannot comprehend this concept. They don't understand that capitalism and private property ownership can and does provide a lot of benefits for endangered species. They think everything needs a new law and more government. And it's not just in Africa. Check out what's happening in Texas;


Can hunting endangered animals save the species? - CBS News

Where can you find some of the best big game hunting in the world? It's a place that may surprise you. Tonight, we're going to take you on a journey into a world that many people don't even know exists.

To get the best view, we flew by helicopter over this vast terrain. From the air, we could see herds of African antelope and zebra charging across the wide open spaces. It looks remarkably like Africa, but it's not. This is Texas.

Here in the Lone Star State the iconic Texas longhorn now shares the range with more than a quarter million animals from Asia, Africa, Europe. Today, Texas has more exotic wildlife than any other place on earth.

Lara Logan: How many exotics do you have in Texas?

Charly Seale: I think our last count there's like 125 different species here in Texas.

 
Old 10-16-2015, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Where the mountains touch the sky
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Trophy hunting pays for all the conservation efforts and park rangers to stop poaching. An old animal can die naturally (though most will not live to an old age because of poachers) or it can be sold to a trophy hunter (where the animal is used to feed the local population) and the money goes to preserve the rest of the species.

Over the last few decades the above process has been put into place and the population numbers have skyrocketed and wild life preserves have increased dramatically in both size and staffing to protect the animals from poachers in many countries because of trophy hunters.

Not to mention many species have dominate males who at the end of their life span can no longer reproduce. This prevents years worth of child rearing as younger males cannot mate with females. The trophy Hunter that kills the dominate non reproducing male will actually be increasing the size of the population over 5-10 years.

Or you can just get upset without understanding the dynamics of the situation because you think hunting certain animals is bad.
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Originally Posted by shooting4life View Post
You really don't know what you are talking about.

Females or packs with males who do not reproduce because of the dominate male being the only reproductive member take care of the new borns. If the dominate male is killed then either another male will become dominate or the female will continue taking care of the new borns. Not to mention that the animal to be hunted is preselected based on it being towards the end of its life to not impact the growth of the species.

Just look at the species counts, all the endangered and threatened animals have flourished under the trophy hunting programs because they fund the game wardens to ward off poachers. Plus the animals that are killed go to feeding the local populations, nothing it wasted, everyone wins including the specific species being hunted. Hunters are the original conservationists, they founded most of the conservation societies we have today.

You are out of your depth.

Can't rep you again, but you have it exactly right. Without fees paid by hunters, especially trophy hunters that pay a high premium to harvest those selected animals, there wouldn't be any money for hiring rangers to protect the wildlife from poachers.

If there weren't hunters, there would be no game wardens, but there would still be poachers, and without those dollars coming in making the wildlife valuable, the local governments wouldn't see the animals as worthy of protection or spending resources on, so the populations would fall dramatically.

Tightly regulated hunting like this is beneficial on so many levels to the wildlife, but you have to move past the dumb movies and emotion to actually logically see what is going on.

It's sad that so many people have no idea where their food comes from or why some animals have high value to people while others have none or little.
We've moved too far from the land and too many people think our food comes in styrofoam packages from the store with no connection to the animals and land used to produce that food.

Sad commentary on our times.
 
Old 10-16-2015, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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German National pays 40k pounds to shoot the largest elephant in Zimbabwe...



I really don't understand trophy hunting these amazing animals.
White conservative men with a small penis
 
Old 10-16-2015, 12:40 PM
 
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Originally Posted by shooting4life View Post
You really don't know what you are talking about.

Females or packs with males who do not reproduce because of the dominate male being the only reproductive member take care of the new borns. If the dominate male is killed then either another male will become dominate or the female will continue taking care of the new borns. Not to mention that the animal to be hunted is preselected based on it being towards the end of its life to not impact the growth of the species.

Just look at the species counts, all the endangered and threatened animals have flourished under the trophy hunting programs because they fund the game wardens to ward off poachers. Plus the animals that are killed go to feeding the local populations, nothing it wasted, everyone wins including the specific species being hunted. Hunters are the original conservationists, they founded most of the conservation societies we have today.

You are out of your depth.
Flourished? The lion population in Africa has declined 95% in the past 50 years!

Quote: "The killing of an adult male in a pride can throw the group into chaos, Dereck said. For example, this makes the pride more vulnerable to attack from an outside group of males, leading to upheaval and the almost certain killing of any young cubs, Dereck said."
Source: Becoming King: Why So Few Male Lions Survive to Adulthood

The notion that trophy hunters from America are keeping villagers from starving by feeding them endangered animals is absolutely hysterical! Never mind the chickens goats and cows they raise, plus non-endangered game like kudu, impala and springbok, They need rich fat Americans to come and shoot them a lion so they eat!

I don't know what I'm talking about? I give references and all you give is hot air.
Yep, I'm out of my league all right -- the B.S. league.
 
Old 10-16-2015, 01:19 PM
 
Location: When you take flak it means you are on target
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Too bad they can't hunt liberals. There should be no limits, kind of like with parrie dogs, or rats. Heck I'd even pay for extra tags.

Of course liberals aren't very hard to hunt. They are trained to "huddle" when threatened in a group setting, and if you catch one alone, they run in circles and scream and shout!
 
Old 10-16-2015, 01:25 PM
 
Location: NJ
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White conservative men with a small penis
Why do libs always turn the conversation to sex?

We can only guess!
 
Old 10-16-2015, 01:27 PM
 
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Kenya caved into political correctness and banned trophy hunting. As a result, they lost 80% of their wild life. That's a fact. Of course facts don't matter to these anti-hunting fools and they really don't care if most of the wildlife disappears because they can feel real righteous about forcing their ideology down other peoples throats.

This particular elephant was real old, when they get old they get solitary as well as mean and typically don't breed any more they just interfere with the other younger breeders. Far better than he be hunted with funds going back into conservation than he be poisoned with cyanide so the poacher can profit.

I realize my comments are pointless because anti-people are beyond unreasonable as well as being monumentally ignorant and stone cold liars.
 
Old 10-16-2015, 01:28 PM
 
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Why do libs always turn the conversation to sex?

We can only guess!
Libs just desperately wish they had a penis. It's green eyed jealousy on their part.
 
Old 10-16-2015, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Too bad they can't hunt liberals. There should be no limits, kind of like with parrie dogs, or rats. Heck I'd even pay for extra tags.

Of course liberals aren't very hard to hunt. They are trained to "huddle" when threatened in a group setting, and if you catch one alone, they run in circles and scream and shout!
typical.
 
Old 10-16-2015, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Why do libs always turn the conversation to sex?

We can only guess!
I said nothing about sex, just the need for trophy hunters to compensate for their inadequacy
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