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Old 11-10-2015, 09:40 PM
 
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Originally Posted by RaymondChandlerLives View Post
Google. Live it, learn it love it.

https://m.whitehouse.gov/issues/immi...ed-citizenship

A path to citizenship is the best solution. By far.

The conservative method (do nothing, whine) hasn't worked in a long time, and Trump's solution would only work in the fantasies of a psychopath.
I'm not sure if it's worth engaging with someone who's as angry and vituperative as you are, but: why is that the best solution. By far?
And if a "path to citizenship" is such a good idea, why don't any other countries in the world follow this model?

 
Old 11-10-2015, 09:47 PM
 
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I beg to differ.

The fact of the matter is illegal immigrants tend to be overwhelmingly conservative leaning. They share very strongly the core values of the republican party: homophobia and theocracy.
Nah, they tend to vote Democrat. And I doubt that many people base their votes solely on homosexuality.
 
Old 11-10-2015, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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Also, do the European countries have a plan for citizenizing the Moslem refugee/immigrants?
This part of irrelevant, and I'm confident you're not actually so mentally deficient to believe that Democrats actually advocate for illegal immigration. You're trying to get people upset. Don't do that.

Yes, Democrats have a softer approach to how we deal with illegal immigrants. The general consensus is that those who have done nothing wrong outside of immigrating illegally should have an opportunity to do so (immigrate, I mean) legally without being deported or punished (severely). Some of this reason is based on getting votes, but it's a common theme for Democrats to stand up for those who are often forgotten, or at least seem to be.
 
Old 11-10-2015, 11:34 PM
 
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This part of irrelevant, and I'm confident you're not actually so mentally deficient to believe that Democrats actually advocate for illegal immigration. You're trying to get people upset. Don't do that.

Yes, Democrats have a softer approach to how we deal with illegal immigrants. The general consensus is that those who have done nothing wrong outside of immigrating illegally should have an opportunity to do so (immigrate, I mean) legally without being deported or punished (severely). Some of this reason is based on getting votes, but it's a common theme for Democrats to stand up for those who are often forgotten, or at least seem to be.
Tell this forum why "Democrats" choose to have contempt for immigration laws.

Why didn't they LEGISLATE for their immigration desires?

The system not good enough for them?
 
Old 11-10-2015, 11:37 PM
 
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So, to make sure I understand this, every few years the plan will be to give a path to citizenship to those who broke our immigration laws?

That sounds like an open border to me, for the most part.
Wrong, as most plans include tightening the border. Plus Ford UAW deal has more cars made south of the border. More jobs there also reduces illegal crossings.
 
Old 11-10-2015, 11:43 PM
 
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More jobs there also reduces illegal crossings.
We should move all of our jobs to Mexico so no one wants to illegal cross our border. That's winning.
 
Old 11-11-2015, 12:06 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Also, do the European countries have a plan for citizenizing the Moslem refugee/immigrants?
There are three types of people who want mass immigration.

Business interests who want to exploit low-wage workers.
Socialists, who want to destroy national borders.
Wealthy young people, from wealthy families, who feel guilty for having such a "good life", that they didn't "earn".

Though, while they might want others to have more, these rich kids aren't actually willing to give up their lifestyle to elevate others. They naively believe that the government can just wave its fingers and make everyone rich.
 
Old 11-11-2015, 12:17 AM
 
Location: Asia
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If it is long term planning, as you suggest, then it is a strategic demagoguery, and I don't like the looks of it.

Someone should try thwarting it with existing immigration laws.
You mean that immigration law that prohibits entry into the US unless with a valid visa?
 
Old 11-11-2015, 02:06 AM
 
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I posted more facts than you did. Bush extended Reagan's policy.



Every few years, huh?



Wants to deport 11 million people.. using planes.

And I thought Trump's plan was ridiculous.
Yes I do. The quicker we start the quicker it's over. Nothing is more demoralizing to an illegal alien on how long and the hardships endured getting to US and in a few short hours he is returned back to where he/she came from.
 
Old 11-11-2015, 02:10 AM
 
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I'm not sure if it's worth engaging with someone who's as angry and vituperative as you are, but: why is that the best solution. By far?
And if a "path to citizenship" is such a good idea, why don't any other countries in the world follow this model?
Because they aren't as stupid as liberals.
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