Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
I worked HARD and pay for college and did not borrow money that would have me in debt for ever. I think I made a much better choice. Who knows how these kids can pay for their college, rich daddy? Government grant? Work? Debt?
Many work hard and try to stay out of debt as much as possible. When I started a semester was less than $300. It's not the fault of college students its so much more expensive today, its ours.
Quote:
I had a co-worker with tons of debt because she went to one of these schools, same position, same pay. While I was using my money on other things and investing while she was crying the blues about all her school debt.
This past week, I actually had a student come forward after a university chapel service and complain because he felt “victimized” by a sermon on the topic of 1 Corinthians 13. It appears that this young scholar felt offended because a homily on love made him feel bad for not showing love. In his mind, the speaker was wrong for making him, and his peers, feel uncomfortable.
An open letter to the students written by -- Dr. Everett Piper, President where he said...
Our culture has actually taught our kids to be this self-absorbed and narcissistic. Any time their feelings are hurt, they are the victims. Anyone who dares challenge them and, thus, makes them “feel bad” about themselves, is a “hater,” a “bigot,” an “oppressor,” and a “victimizer.”
Oklahoma Wesleyan is also a private, evangelical Christian university where - I will hazard a guess - there aren't a lot of liberals in attendance.
I think maybe Dr. Piper is a little sensitive, considering the student didn't like his homily but, apparently, didn't use any of the terms that Dr. Piper goes on in his letter to complain about. Maybe Dr. Piper, being a minister, should spend more time listening and less time complaining.
Last edited by Ibginnie; 12-01-2015 at 07:11 AM..
Reason: personal attack
Theres whiners everywhere. I've gotten into arguments with friends over this, I have a hard time comprehending how we should encourage people in this behavior. But the important thing is...these are a tiny minority. The VAST majority are in their kicking butt and taking names, their concerns are passing their classes, and their major complaints are about relevant things like the cost of books.
That's true. But that isn't:
1. What gets attention in the media
2. What fits the narrative for conservatives who are determined to prove that all college students are money grubbing whiners who do nothing more than attend institutions of progressive indoctrination AND liberals determined to minimize the opinion of conservatives by calling them all redneck, xenophobic educayshun-haters
3. Important in the grand scheme of CD arguments where every college student is a delicate cupcake, every cop is a jack booted, racist thug with a gun, every poor person is a lobster eating welfare queen or drug peddling gang banger, every conservative is a gun hugging bible thumper etc etc.
Those who make the most noise get the most attention. Black Lives Matter, SJW college students et al have been shrieking at dog whistle pitch for a good while now. The grown-ups in the room have been shrinking from their responsibility to act like the grown-ups in the room, and the kiddies have been running amok. And now here we are.
College kids these days are getting stupider by the day. And I speak as someone that has 3 degrees.
They're not more stupid. They were brought up with different expectations. There's a difference.
I feel sorry for a lot of the kids, though. There was a lot of nonsense throughout the 90s about hurting a child's feelings, so everyone got a trophy in too many things that should never have been competitive to begin with.
I watched it happen to my youngest niece. It gave her the belief that there's more competition in life that there really is, and at the same time, allowed her to believe she would always triumph in the areas where competition does exist.
Now, in her mid-20's, life is slapping her around pretty hard sometimes, and needlessly so. She was a special little snowflake once, but not now, and that weirdness she grew up in has now turned to bitterness over things that she should not be bitter about.
I'm sure she is far from being alone in this. Lecturing them about how dumb and ill-prepared for life's blows isn't going to help this generation.
How to you teach a blind person to see?
They have no way of comparison yet, and only living will provide it. Blame and sneering at them sure won't do it.
I expect they will all be more bitter than their elders after they graduate from the school of hard knocks.
If the purpose of a sermon is to induce guilt and persons to confess their sins and not self-actualize then what exactly did this guy tell the student in person when confronted with the question?
Wouldn't a response to his emotions be aiding the student's self-actualization journey? Even if that response is something as distant as an open letter?
Ah, the pitfalls of passive-aggressive behavior in the religious paradigm.
This past week, I actually had a student come forward after a university chapel service and complain because he felt “victimized” by a sermon on the topic of 1 Corinthians 13. It appears that this young scholar felt offended because a homily on love made him feel bad for not showing love. In his mind, the speaker was wrong for making him, and his peers, feel uncomfortable.
An open letter to the students written by -- Dr. Everett Piper, President where he said...
Our culture has actually taught our kids to be this self-absorbed and narcissistic. Any time their feelings are hurt, they are the victims. Anyone who dares challenge them and, thus, makes them “feel bad” about themselves, is a “hater,” a “bigot,” an “oppressor,” and a “victimizer.”
It irritates me too, but we shouldn't single them out. Their logic was adapted from adult left-wingers who believed these same things. And their logic isn't different from how adult right-wingers think about the government, they just use different language.
Like these crazy people who say that "taxes are theft!" "regulations are oppressive!" etc. It is a victim mentality and a sense that they've somehow been wronged.
we, the American taxpayers have the dis honore of funding these institutions of indoctrination. I think it's time
the state legislatures get the message--defund these day cares and let these lil' darlin's work for their tutition
IT STARTS IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, everybody gets a atrophy, no grades, etc. and continues through High School.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.