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Old 12-17-2015, 02:00 PM
 
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Originally Posted by fisheye View Post
Does anybody know if this bill has an attachment that quadruples the number of H-2B's? That is what I heard and it sounds natural that our government would push for it before another San Bernardino. But I don't know; just wondering?
It does. It took some digging, but that was inserted by Senator Barbara Mikulski (D., Md.) and Senator Thom Tillis (R., N.C.). But it seems for all of the outrage from the majority party, it stayed in the bill. So that tells me that the either the Republican leadership isn't listening to it's party's membership, or the conservative outrage is just for show. Big business got what big business wanted.

 
Old 12-17-2015, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Florida
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It doesn't get voted on if not for Ryan. Sorry, this belongs to the GOP.
Typically they push these kinds of bills through, and then either pretend they were not there, or blame it on someone else. I would be very surprised if they assume any responsibility for it.

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Old 12-17-2015, 02:06 PM
 
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It was done behind closed doors and in secrete. Now we know why.
 
Old 12-17-2015, 02:10 PM
 
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The FINAL say are the Dems, they are going to be the majority votes AND the President has veto power. No need to blame the R's when the Dems can stop it but won't.
The sheer head in the sand viewpoint of this boggles the mind.

Don't blame the Republicans who have the majority, blame the Democrats!

Wow...just...wow.
 
Old 12-17-2015, 02:10 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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And it's all the Dems fault. After all, they're in cahrge.


...oh wait...
No it is absolutely both parties fault.
 
Old 12-17-2015, 02:11 PM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 27 days ago)
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Both sides agreed to waive cuts/taxes for new spending.

This is the Merry Christmas spending bill....everyone got what they wanted from their failed bills throughout the year.
nope, you didnt play that "both sides" game when Dems controlled congress, you arent going to do it now.


Republicans get the blame.
 
Old 12-17-2015, 02:12 PM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 27 days ago)
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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No it is absolutely both parties fault.
nope. You guys didnt want to blame both parties when Dems were in charge even though it was clear Republicans had enough votes to stop bills and exercised that power, so now, you have to blame republicans since they are in the majority.
 
Old 12-17-2015, 02:15 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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nope. You guys didnt want to blame both parties when Dems were in charge even though it was clear Republicans had enough votes to stop bills and exercised that power, so now, you have to blame republicans since they are in the majority.
Actually I did. A good example is when congress forced the Army to buy tanks the Army said they didn't want or need. That was a bipartisan push.
The F-35 is another example.
 
Old 12-17-2015, 02:17 PM
 
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lmao..This is going to pass with a MAJORITY Dem vote where 100% of them will be for it...
Not quite.

REPUBLICAN: 241 Yea / 3 Nay / 1 NV
DEMOCRATIC: 77 Yea / 106 Nay / 5 NV
TOTALS: 318 Yea // 109 Nay // 6 NV

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2015/roll703.xml

Last edited by John Dark; 12-17-2015 at 02:19 PM.. Reason: added NVs
 
Old 12-17-2015, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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It does. It took some digging, but that was inserted by Senator Barbara Mikulski (D., Md.) and Senator Thom Tillis (R., N.C.). But it seems for all of the outrage from the majority party, it stayed in the bill. So that tells me that the either the Republican leadership isn't listening to it's party's membership, or the conservative outrage is just for show. Big business got what big business wanted.

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