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Old 02-27-2016, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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He's going to bend. We all know that he will. He's not going to bend due to pressure but because he is afraid what the Democrats will do with the process if the Republicans win the White House.
That's what the Republicans always do--bend [over].
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Old 02-27-2016, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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If Dems had "won" and kept the Senate, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

The American electorate got fed up with Obama's and the Dems' antics, got angry about getting screwed by Obamacare, rejected a Dem majority House and Senate, and gave both to the Republicans.

What part of that is hard for you to understand?

I don't think you understand the makeup of the senate, 60 votes is required. Whether 2014 or 2012 both parties need crossover votes from the opposition to get a SCOTUS confirmed. By the way assuming they even get a republican president (big if) they still wouldn't get their way with the current makeup of the senate unless a few democratic senators approve the nominee.

Funny how all those GOP congressmen were elected just because of Obamacare but they couldn't get a new president.

I guess this counts as a GOP accomplishment, maybe this along with voting to defund ACA 50 times is progress. We will see if this gets a resounding vote of approval in November.

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Old 02-27-2016, 03:40 PM
 
Location: CO
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Your party's chosen to not even hear about nominees.
Your party has sidelined themselves from key decisions that include:
• Abortion
• Affirmative Action
• Immigration

Keep obstructing - we'll get to win some key votes w/o Scalia.
DOW already capitulated one major settlement due to his absence.
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What part of that is hard for you to understand?
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Old 02-27-2016, 04:09 PM
 
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Your party's chosen to not even hear about nominees.
Your party has sidelined themselves from key decisions that include:
• Abortion
• Affirmative Action
• Immigration

Keep obstructing - we'll get to win some key votes w/o Scalia.
DOW already capitulated one major settlement due to his absence.
If Obama nominates someone who'd vote with the conservative SC judges on those cases, the R's will consent. Why in the world should they consent to someone who's similar to his prior nominees and turn the SC into an even stronger liberal stronghold than it already is.
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Old 02-27-2016, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Scalia was approved by the senate 98-0 in 1986, he was the 3rd of 4 justices appointed by Reagan, no controversy, little debate and life went on. Actually 3 of his appointees received unanimous approval, not one nay.


Obama gets to appoint a 3rd justice which will need approval by republican senators, senate answer is stop the nomination, boy have times changed.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._Ronald_Reagan
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Old 02-27-2016, 04:51 PM
 
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Scalia was approved by the senate 98-0 in 1986, he was the 3rd of 4 justices appointed by Reagan, no controversy, little debate and life went on. Actually 3 of his appointees received unanimous approval, not one nay.


Obama gets to appoint a 3rd justice which will need approval by republican senators, senate answer is stop the nomination, boy have times changed.
Ronald Reagan was a strong president who had popular support of the people. If congress didn't do his bidding, he go directly to the people on TV and convince people that to support him. Next day switchboard at the Capital would be ringing off the hook. It's called the Bully pulpit.

In comparison Obama is a weak lame duck president that garners no respect except from party loyalists. This is why he can't get anything done now.
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Old 02-27-2016, 05:00 PM
 
Location: CO
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If Obama nominates someone who'd vote with the conservative SC judges on those cases, the R's will consent.
The R's will consent and distance themselves (again) from McConnell as they lose key decisions coming up.
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Why in the world should they consent to someone who's similar to his prior nominees and turn the SC into an even stronger liberal stronghold than it already is.
No one pretends to know what conservatives will fail at next.
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Old 02-27-2016, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Ronald Reagan was a strong president who had popular support of the people. If congress didn't do his bidding, he go directly to the people on TV and convince people that to support him. Next day switchboard at the Capital would be ringing off the hook. It's called the Bully pulpit.

In comparison Obama is a weak lame duck president that garners no respect except from party loyalists. This is why he can't get anything done now.
Reagan was a good leader but there was also many contentious debates with the democrats, Tip O'Neill and others were always at odds but they both compromised.


Reagan and Obama were both very popular when elected but you would never hear a senate leader state that they would do everything to obstruct Reagans programs and make him a one term president, that is why we can't get anything done.


I would never attribute the senate votes on SCJ's under Reagan to leadership ability, that is what common sense looks like which is in short supply today.
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Old 02-27-2016, 10:39 PM
 
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Reagan was a good leader but there was also many contentious debates with the democrats, Tip O'Neill and others were always at odds but they both compromised.


Reagan and Obama were both very popular when elected but you would never hear a senate leader state that they would do everything to obstruct Reagans programs and make him a one term president, that is why we can't get anything done.


I would never attribute the senate votes on SCJ's under Reagan to leadership ability, that is what common sense looks like which is in short supply today.
It kind of makes me miss that era of politics in DC.
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Old 02-27-2016, 10:46 PM
 
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It kind of makes me miss that era of politics in DC.
LOL. Bet at the time you would never have imagined that.

This is dysfunctional. Know how you destroy a country? Your idiots in charge acting like children.
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