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Old 03-09-2016, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Texas
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You're delusional. There's no "police brutality' problem in America. There's no "institutionalized racism in police" problem in America. There is however a huge black crime problem in America. Violent crime by the way. Blacks are only 12% of the population yet commit over 50% of ALL murders. Are you not concerned about that? Doesn't this seem somewhat odd at least? No, to you, right? You live in a delusional world where white racist cops hunt down innocent black kids for sport. Best way to avoid unpleasant encounters with police? Stop committing crime!
There's no "police brutality' problem in America. There's no "institutionalized racism in police" problem in America.
LMAO One of the most ridiculous posts on c and d that I've read.
So the fact that blacks use drugs at equal rates with whites yet are arrested almost 4 times the rate than whites for marijuana use means nothing?
Only someone ignorant or in a coma would not think there is a problem with police brutality. Almost every day there is a story about it. Over 100 shots fired into the pickup truck of a Hispanic Grandmother and her Granddaughter throwing newspapers because the thug cops thought it was Chris Dorner, a black man, even though the trucks descriptions didn't match. A blue Toyota Tacoma truck vs a gray Nissan Titan.
Those dirty cops were let off the hook even though the city lost a huge lawsuit.

Best way to avoid unpleasant encounters with police? Hold those pieces of garbage accountable.
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Old 03-09-2016, 07:33 AM
 
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There's no "police brutality' problem in America. There's no "institutionalized racism in police" problem in America.
LMAO One of the most ridiculous posts on c and d that I've read.
So the fact that blacks use drugs at equal rates with whites yet are arrested almost 4 times the rate than whites for marijuana use means nothing?

Have you considered the possibility that maybe black drug users aren't as good as the white drug users in avoiding the police? You know just like in school, if there's no AA, not sure black would account for even a few percentages in school.

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Only someone ignorant or in a coma would not think there is a problem with police brutality. Almost every day there is a story about it.
That's precisely why it is not an issue. It's on the news because it's news, something rare and dramatic. Nobody would put dog biting human on news while a man biting dog would be on the front page.

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Over 100 shots fired into the pickup truck of a Hispanic Grandmother and her Granddaughter throwing newspapers because the thug cops thought it was Chris Dorner, a black man, even though the trucks descriptions didn't match. A blue Toyota Tacoma truck vs a gray Nissan Titan.
Those dirty cops were let off the hook even though the city lost a huge lawsuit.
That's terrible. Over 100 shots fired but only scored two hits on the grandma? Something doesn't smell right.
Gunshots Meant For Christopher Dorner Nearly Kill 2 Women, Margie Carranza And Emma Hernandez


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Best way to avoid unpleasant encounters with police? Hold those pieces of garbage accountable.
Best way to avoid unpleasant encounters with police is OBEY THE LAW! I guess that just slipped your mind, didn't it?
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Old 03-09-2016, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Hyrule
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So... it's almost unanimous then... racism is all in our minds. We all really love each other but mainstream media just loves to stir **** up. Ok... you tell that to the brothers serving life for drug possession while the dealers they got the stuff from who were holding ten times as much stuff get probation. You tell the guy who has just been pulled over for "driving overcautiously" who then has to endure a 30 minute check for outstanding warrants. Or the guy in a stop and frisk jurisdiction who has been stopped and frisked for the 12th time in less than two years. You tell these people that its their imagination that it isn't because of their race. 91% of white people do not have a black friend. 75% of white people do not even have a black acquaintance, or know a black person casually. Could it be that the freeze endures because we refuse to even acknowledge that it exists?
You are addressing individuals. That is the same as if I said all black people live in ghettos, all black people beat up white people. That simply isn't true. There are some police who don't do their job and it affects some black people, some white people and some hispanic people, etc.

Right now it's being brought to light, and things will change so that the police force can be more accountable for certain individuals. But, ALL cops don't do this. And no, this doesn't reflect how all cops see all blacks, whites, or any of the other. A broad brush will only fuel a broad fight. Is it the same for you when a cop rapes a woman? Does that mean all cops hurt women?

There will always be attention brought to problem areas, this won't become a perfect nation but as a whole I think racism is a thing of the past. We now need to address individual issues because there is no law that covers an entire group of people. Police are not by law allowed to discriminate, when they do it's an individual problem that should be address but it does not represent a group.

All cops hate black people, all blacks are thugs, etc. doesn't exist in reality and simply isn't true. There will always be individual a-holes or mentally ill people taking out their prejudices on society but we should all stick together, be aware and address these situations. . There will always be gangs, drug dealers, etc. These do not represent society as a whole, neither do bad cops. Back in history some cops were involved in mobs, but most were not. Doesn't mean all cops were in the mob. A broad brush serves no good purpose but to excite a crowd or feed a media agenda.

If you gave me a law that stated a group based on race could not participate in something all other groups do, or a school that only accepted one race of students, etc. I would have answered yes, it still exists. But there isn't any racist law that we practice today in America. We actually have laws that fight against it and promote unity.

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Old 03-09-2016, 07:38 AM
 
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No, I am not concerned about that. I'm not sure why you are. I'd get it if any of those murder victims were in any remote possibility going to be people you might know. Or even white. They won't be and they aren't. So spare me the faux outrage. It's a talking point. Nothing more, nothing less. Gang thugs murdering gang thugs gets zero concern from me. But, you ought to be concerned about the dozens of newsworthy murders and shootings that stream across the local news feeds. Thanks to the internet every time a jealous husband lets the lead fly the whole world knows about it. Psst. People aren't riled up about gun violence in America because black gangbangers are shooting other black gangbangers. That isn't why Gabrielle Giffords was shot, it isn't why any of the 20 at Newtown were shot, it isn't why the 12 in Aurora, CO were shot, it isn't why the 9 in South Carolina were shot... ... and none of that changes the fact that every 28 hours a white cop somewhere shoots an unarmed black man. The victims are as likely as not to be shot in the back, and 96 times a year the shooting is fatal. Amazingly, no matter how sketchy the circumstances and even if criminal charges are brought against the officers they always walk in the end. That should change. if you think that any thawing of the race relations freeze can happen when white police continue to show such naked disregard for black lives, I think you are mistaken.
It looks like we care more about black on black crime than black people do. That's just amazing!
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Old 03-09-2016, 07:40 AM
 
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Innocent, no, but a good percentage are in prison under circumstances that would not have resulted in prison had they been white.
Care to provide any kind of sources of this allegation?

A good percentage, what percentage?
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Old 03-09-2016, 07:42 AM
 
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There's no "police brutality' problem in America. There's no "institutionalized racism in police" problem in America.
LMAO One of the most ridiculous posts on c and d that I've read.
So the fact that blacks use drugs at equal rates with whites yet are arrested almost 4 times the rate than whites for marijuana use means nothing?
What it means is that anti-drug enforcement is concentrated in cities, where most Black people live and not all that common in areas that are primarily white, particularly rural areas that have very little police presence at all.

Add that Blacks are more likely to buy/sell drugs in public, while whites are more likely to deal in private and that Blacks generally have far more interactions with police for many reasons, its no surprise that Blacks are arrested for pot far more frequently.
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Old 03-09-2016, 07:55 AM
 
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What it means is that anti-drug enforcement is concentrated in cities, where most Black people live and not all that common in areas that are primarily white, particularly rural areas that have very little police presence at all.

Add that Blacks are more likely to buy/sell drugs in public, while whites are more likely to deal in private and that Blacks generally have far more interactions with police for many reasons, its no surprise that Blacks are arrested for pot far more frequently.

A dirty secret is that in the 80s, blacks accused police of IGNORING their communities and the drug problems causing death and destruction. They cited RACISM then for the reason why their "problems" were being neglected and crime allowed to fester. They then LOBBIED for greater police presence, GREATER SENTENCING, mandatory sentencing for drugs like crack cocaine which were tearing through the community.

The actions of BLACK LEADERS created greater policing in black communities.

Now, there is a disparity in convictions, and black leaders are pointing a finger again at "racism" (when the three fingers pointing back at them go ignored - conveniently):

Timeline: Black America’s surprising 40-year support for the Drug War | Prison Time: 40 years of the Rockefeller Drug Laws


Black Leaders Once Championed the Strict Drug Laws They Now Seek to Dismantle - WNYC



The policing wasn't the same or necessary in the suburbs as the inner cities. Suburban drug use - for whatever reason - just doesn't create the same violence and visual reminders of the epidemic. It's behind closed doors.
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Old 03-09-2016, 07:57 AM
 
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and none of that changes the fact that every 28 hours a white cop somewhere shoots an unarmed black man. The victims are as likely as not to be shot in the back, and 96 times a year the shooting is fatal

Source for claim that "white" cops are doing the shooting of black men?

Miami Gardens, for example, is a classic example of black mayor, black police force, black police chief..... and one of the highest areas of police brutality and excessive force and profiling of black people in the ENTIRE NATION. In a County that is 80% or more "of color" (if you count Hispanics as "of color," which I do not but many do when convenient for their narrative.)
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Old 03-09-2016, 08:09 AM
 
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Source for claim that "white" cops are doing the shooting of black men?

Miami Gardens, for example, is a classic example of black mayor, black police force, black police chief..... and one of the highest areas of police brutality and excessive force and profiling of black people in the ENTIRE NATION. In a County that is 80% or more "of color" (if you count Hispanics as "of color," which I do not but many do when convenient for their narrative.)
Maybe white people forced them to do the violence?

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Old 03-09-2016, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Perhaps the same.
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