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The moral to the story....if the bullet had been an inch in another direction he'd have died and it would have just been another "police execution" apparently.
Is this some attempt to be as silly as absolutely possible?
Ohio police officer Joshua Hilling applies enough deadly force to stop a suspect, survive the encounter and make the arrest of a man suspected of murder.
He shot the guy aiming for center mass and hit him in the abdomen.
You tell me that shooting someone in the abdomen is a good place to wound and not kill. The vena cava, a sewer pipe of a vein along with the iliac artery are dead center below the spine and easily available to any projectile that can penetrate the gut.
"Yes, I shot the perp in the leg to wound him....really, i knew the femoral artery was good for a quick 30 second kill."
Good luck, even with the training of a surgeon you couldn't appply just enough deadly force with a bullet. Ever watch a guy spookled by a firearm shoot the dirt 10 paces in front of him instead of the target down range? It happens..a lot.
To imply this video is the template for 'where to apply deadly force' is ignorant. Backing away is a good lesson but imagine if it was a night and the wounded guy stumbles into the traffic. These situations provide some transferable lessons but are very specific in regard to police response as the variables are many and in strange combinations. FBI has always been taught to shoot to kill. Bullet construction is critical but who's paying attention to that.
He shot the guy aiming for center mass and hit him in the abdomen.
You tell me that shooting someone in the abdomen is a good place to wound and not kill. The vena cava, a sewer pipe of a vein along with the iliac artery are dead center below the spine and easily available to any projectile that can penetrate the gut.
"Yes, I shot the perp in the leg to wound him....really, i knew the femoral artery was good for a quick 30 second kill."
Good luck, even with the training of a surgeon you couldn't appply just enough deadly force with a bullet. Ever watch a guy spookled by a firearm shoot the dirt 10 paces in front of him instead of the target down range? It happens..a lot.
To imply this video is the template for 'where to apply deadly force' is ignorant. Backing away is a good lesson but imagine if it was a night and the wounded guy stumbles into the traffic. These situations provide some transferable lessons but are very specific in regard to police response as the variables are many and in strange combinations. FBI has always been taught to shoot to kill. Bullet construction is critical but who's paying attention to that.
That cop is going to get himself or someone else killed. He should have doubled tapped him in the chest. Sorry first order of business is to put down this idiot and not worry about bullet placement or how many. This is more of the pusification of America.
Criminals should not be allowed the luxury of police officers being required to shoot to injure rather than shooting to stop an immediate threat.
Most people that encounter police officers do not have to worry about having an officer point a gun at them and those that behave in a way that might result in an officer drawing a gun should be advised that guns are dangerous. So, when in doubt: listen to law enforcement. Not all cops are good guys but they do have a badge and by default, a gun and the legal authority to use it.
[quote=TheWiseWino;43673624]Ohio police officer Joshua Hilling applies enough deadly force to stop a suspect, survive the encounter and make the arrest of a man suspected of murder....QUOTE]
Wino, Wino, Wino... (Sigh). You know better than this.
He used 'deadly force' (we call it lethal force) knowing that the result might, in fact, be lethal. He very correctly applied that lethal force until the threat was neutralized, and then he stopped applying that level of force. Great! All that training we've been beating into their heads is working! That the offender lived is testament to the officer's training, experience - and a good medical staff at the local trauma center.
Unless their name is John Wayne or we're on a sound stage with multiple takes available, we used to throw people off the range for trying to 'shoot to wound'.
'Shooting to wound' results in a 90+% chance of missing. (You know I'm retired, but those were the figures when I was an agency firearms instructor.) That means the officer who 'shoots to wound' decides to send an uncontrolled round downrange that will not strike its intended target more than 90% of the time. That is indefensible conduct for a public servant.
I won't even address your use of the word 'execute' because others have already shamed you for it.
C'mon Wino, don't lose your Wise on me now... There are lots of good, healthy debates to have on lots of issues left in the future.
So he is preserving the criminals life so that he can be convicted and we, as taxpayers, can support him in prison with free food, shelter, and medical care? And this is a good thing?
We have a justice system for a reason in a civilized country committing a crime doesn't warrant an automatic death sentence . You're not acquainted with the full facts of the Constitution, are you?
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Originally Posted by vicarjoe
That cop is going to get himself or someone else killed. He should have doubled tapped him in the chest. Sorry first order of business is to put down this idiot and not worry about bullet placement or how many. This is more of the pusification of America.
It is not the cop's place to decide whether a criminal should be executed or not. That's up to a jury. Another golden nugget!
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in a civilized country committing a crime doesn't warrant an automatic death sentence 
