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Murderer attacks cop with a knife at close range. Quite clearly the cop should shoot to kill. Sorry, but there are no second chances in scenarios like this. I'd rather have the cop go home safely.
Sorry, but the concept is to shoot to STOP, now in the course of applying potentially lethal force a person dies, be they shot by police of civilian... well that's just the way it goes. But the concept of shooting to kill implies that it is perfectly fine to keep applying potentially lethal force even after that attacker has ceased to pose a threat, that is called murder.
Had Officer Josh Hilling killed, Javier Pablo Aleman with one round, two, three of fifty if Mr. Aleman had continued to pose an imminent threat I would still applaud his actions, but Officer Hilling ceased to fire his weapon once Mr. Aleman's attack cease to pose an imminent threat. The same can not be said of Officer Van Dyke who not only shot a man who did not pose an imminent threat but continued shooting Lashawn McDonald as he laid helplessly in the street.
Of course this appears to be impenetrable concept, it clearly didn't penetrate Officer Van Dyke but then that is why he has been charged with murder and Officer Hilling is being applauded for his actions.
That's very nice and all, and I don't want to see people die, but if a cop is in a different surprise attack with a second to react, it might have a different outcome.
I wonder what the officer noticed? He must have seen something. The video isn't complete. The only way that pat down is legal is if the officer knew the person had a weapon and might use it.
I wonder what the officer noticed? He must have seen something. The video isn't complete. The only way that pat down is legal is if the officer knew the person had a weapon and might use it.
I think technically it's illegal to walk on the interstate.
I think technically it's illegal to walk on the interstate.
But that doesn't give the officer any reason to pat someone down. You get a speeding ticket he can't legally pat you down.
A quick surface search of the person’s outer clothing for weapons if they have reasonable suspicion that the person stopped is armed. This reasonable suspicion must be based on "specific and articulable facts" and not merely upon an officer's hunch
Ohio police officer Joshua Hilling applies enough deadly force to stop a suspect, survive the encounter and make the arrest of a man suspected of murder.
I'm not sure where the disconnect is. He did. He fired and stopped the guy. What are we missing?
Just proves that many cops can't shoot very well. If you pull a trigger then you should be trying to kill. I guess I'm not surprised though. Most cops aren't very good shots. Oh well, hopefully his department is requiring him to get more range time.
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