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Seems we have "a failure to communicate," and no doubt I'm having some trouble understanding your position contrary to what I think is obvious, but let's look at this a little differently for the sake of perhaps some better understanding either way.
Let's just for the sake of argument imagine that somehow there is general agreement that slowing dowing the rate of fire for a killer is agreed upon, accepted, strived for...
Say I go to you and the rest of the gun "experts" in light of this agreement and further define the goal of limiting the sale of weapons on the market to include only those that allow a killer to kill at a rate or number roughly 10 percent of what the fastest possibility is today.
IOWs, if the "fastest gun in the West" can kill 100 people in 10 seconds in whatever manner possible, the ban would be on everything that has a "kill rate" of more than 10 people in 10 seconds...
Obviously this example, scenario and notion is all but ridiculous, but to the point about reducing the kill rate, this is the sort of math that begins to shape what those opposed to "assault weapons" are aiming to accomplish, misguided and/or impossible all that effort may ultimately be.
Understand?
Curious, either way, just what all weapons would be banned (or not) if such a measure were actually made into law, implimented...
That would ban just about everything except muzzle loaders............I can reload my wheel gun fast enough to get off 12 rounds in say 15 seconds........
Why do you need such a weapon are you planning to shoot up a school or movie theater?
Ya, for the last 100 years of ownership, that's what AMERICANS have planned.
Why do you need the internet? Why do you need to coach LL, are you a pedophile? Why do you need to be a Pastor? Can't get a date?
A smart phone, a fancy car, a college degree, a big house? You missed your calling as you could have lived in Cuba where everyone thinks for you. Comrade.
They don't know the magazine size at this point, some people can change fast some not so much so. The AR-15 fire rate is around 45-60 rounds per minute in Semi-auto but that I believe is assuming no magazine change.
A common shotgun using .00 is going to spew 10 projectiles about the size of a 9mm each trigger pull... If you really wanted to kill a lot people in a crowded room it's all you need. You merely have to point in at people and you'll easily kill 2, 3 or even more each trigger pull. With enough practice it can be reloaded in seconds, you just leave a shell chambered and one in the tube while reloading for any brave soul that might want to try and rush you.
Bottom line is you are not going to stop these terrorists/mass shooting by banning any particular weapon.
A common shotgun using .00 is going to spew 10 projectiles about the size of a 9mm each trigger pull... If you really wanted to kill a lot people in a crowded room it's all you need. You merely have to point in at people and you'll easily kill 2, 3 or even more each trigger pull. With enough practice it can be reloaded in seconds, you just leave a shell chambered and one in the tube while reloading for any brave soul that might want to try and rush you.
Bottom line is you are not going to stop these terrorists/mass shooting by banning any particular weapon.
Shot guns are just legal machine guns. I'm surprised they haven't been banned yet. With one pull of the trigger between 8 and hundreds of different projectiles come spraying out. These weapons of war do not belong on the streets and must be stopped. If it saves just one life it will be worth it.
Shot guns are just legal machine guns. I'm surprised they haven't been banned yet. With one pull of the trigger between 8 and hundreds of different projectiles come spraying out. These weapons of war do not belong on the streets and must be stopped. If it saves just one life it will be worth it.
I'm surprised they are rarely used by these mass shooters, especially something like the Saiga 12.
One thing needs to be noted. He didnt use an AR15. He used a Sig MCX which is a different type of long rifle originally designed for SOF. It shoots one of three calibers, with appropriate barrel change. Revolutionary.. Hard to get ahold of too. Twice the cost of a regular long black evil rifle
A common shotgun using .00 is going to spew 10 projectiles about the size of a 9mm each trigger pull... If you really wanted to kill a lot people in a crowded room it's all you need. You merely have to point in at people and you'll easily kill 2, 3 or even more each trigger pull. With enough practice it can be reloaded in seconds, you just leave a shell chambered and one in the tube while reloading for any brave soul that might want to try and rush you.
Bottom line is you are not going to stop these terrorists/mass shooting by banning any particular weapon.
The AR-15 is one of the most popular rifles and is fairly commonly used in these shootings I assume because of good advertising, and yes that is not the only problem.
Anybody with just a little practice can easily fire 4 rounds a second. Any semi-auto would have a firing rate of at least 240 per min. That's not counting bump fire.
You might could pull a trigger four times in one second if you really practice a lot.
But getting off four reasonably aimed shots in one second is a whole different story.
Most people aren't Jerry Miculek, or even close. That guy is just inhuman.
A more realistic estimate for normal human beings who don't spend every waking hour at the range would be closer to one shot per second, and that's in a non stressed environment.
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