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Old 06-15-2016, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Oh boy, from the article



There’s a massive spring here in the stock that absorbs quite a bit of the recoil. There’s also, by design, a gas system that takes a lot of the gas from the firing of each bullet, and it evaporates it, so that when each bullet is fired, that gas and that recoil isn’t coming back on the shoulder each time, but it’s actually in the rifle in a more constructive manner.
Good god, are they really that frickin' clueless?

BTW, I have to wonder about another term the anti-gun nutjobs keep throwing around as if they know what they are talking about. "Military Grade" weapons? Just WTF is that supposed to mean? "Military grade" just means it was built by the lowest bidder. Many civilian firearms are built to higher standards of fit, accuracy and even durability than those used by the military.
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Old 06-15-2016, 01:23 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Good god, are they really that frickin' clueless?

BTW, I have to wonder about another term the anti-gun nutjobs keep throwing around as if they know what they are talking about. "Military Grade" weapons? Just WTF is that supposed to mean? "Military grade" just means it was built by the lowest bidder. Many civilian firearms are built to higher standards of fit, accuracy and even durability than those used by the military.
Didn't you hear, the new f-150's are military grade as well.
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Old 06-15-2016, 01:43 PM
 
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Good god, are they really that frickin' clueless?

BTW, I have to wonder about another term the anti-gun nutjobs keep throwing around as if they know what they are talking about. "Military Grade" weapons? Just WTF is that supposed to mean? "Military grade" just means it was built by the lowest bidder. Many civilian firearms are built to higher standards of fit, accuracy and even durability than those used by the military.
I think "military grade" means graduated high school, though not necessarily...
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Old 06-15-2016, 03:54 PM
 
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Good god, are they really that frickin' clueless?

BTW, I have to wonder about another term the anti-gun nutjobs keep throwing around as if they know what they are talking about. "Military Grade" weapons? Just WTF is that supposed to mean? "Military grade" just means it was built by the lowest bidder. Many civilian firearms are built to higher standards of fit, accuracy and even durability than those used by the military.
Ain't that the truth. I asked for an M-14 when I got overseas caused I figured the bad ones had been weeded out. The M-16s seemed to be junk at that point. I know they jammed too easy for my taste.
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Old 06-15-2016, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Jim Sullivan the designer of the AR-15 and several other guns was interviewed by HBO on real Sports last month.
Some really significant comments on the AR-15.


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DAVID SCOTT: “Did you ever imagine—“
JIM SULLIVAN: “No. Never even considered that—it had any civilian application.”
DAVID SCOTT: “Concern you at all?”
JIM SULLIVAN: “Of course, everybody gets concerned when there’s one of these school issues where children are killed by an AR-15. I mean, that’s sickening. But that was never the intended purpose. Civilian sales was never the intended purpose.
Breaking: Jim Sullivan, AR-15 Designer, Makes Some Controversial Statements on HBO Tonight - The Firearm Blog


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On the segment, Sullivan is quoted saying, the AR-15 is "more lethal than any cartridge that was fired by any army in history," omitting this key phrase from Sullivan:

"… when firing semi-auto only."
Breaking News at Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/gun-inventor-hbo-bryant-gumbel/2016/05/31/id/731584/#ixzz4Bgwaq4Bx
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Old 06-16-2016, 10:18 AM
 
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Capacity doesn't make a difference. Very little time difference between using 6 rd magazines and 12 rd. Even tests have shown, a revolver can be fired almost as fast and reloaded as fast.
"a revolver can be fired almost as fast and reloaded as fast."

I've seen a video where a shooter fired a revolver FASTER then a semi-auto pistol.
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Old 06-16-2016, 10:33 AM
 
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JOHN YANG: The NRA says it’s America’s most popular rifle, used legally and safely by millions of people. A lawyer for victims’ families says it’s the gold standard for mass murder of innocent civilians.

The AR-15 has been used in some of the nation’s worst mass shootings, at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, an Oregon community college, and now an Orlando gay club.

To learn more about the rifle, its popularity among gun enthusiasts and its place in American culture, we went to a Northern Virginia gun range to speak with former Deputy Assistant Defense Secretary Phillip Carter, himself a gun owner, who knows the AR-15 well from his service as an Army officer.

Why is this weapon so popular?

It
lmao....Wasn't the AR in the trunk of Lanza's car and never used in CT? Mateen didn't even own an AR, it was a different gun. People are such ignorant sheep.
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Old 06-16-2016, 10:39 AM
 
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On the segment, Sullivan is quoted saying, the AR-15 is "more lethal than any cartridge that was fired by any army in history,"

LMAO!!!!!!!! This is hysterical..That quote just has to be made up. An AR-15 is not a cartridge!!!! Also, it is NOT more lethal of a weapon than one that fires 308, 30.06, 45, 7.62, etc. even at semi auto. The AR WAS intended for civilian use. Besides AR is just the BRAND name Armalite which makes other weapons also. Those quotes in post #45 are just pure ****ing bull****.
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Old 06-16-2016, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Central NJ and PA
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Jim Sullivan the designer of the AR-15 and several other guns was interviewed by HBO on real Sports last month.
Some really significant comments on the AR-15.



Breaking: Jim Sullivan, AR-15 Designer, Makes Some Controversial Statements on HBO Tonight - The Firearm Blog




Breaking News at Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/gun-inventor-hbo-bryant-gumbel/2016/05/31/id/731584/#ixzz4Bgwaq4Bx
And here is Sullivan's response to what HBO aired. Seems they took a few liberties, but what else is new? At the end of this article he states, "As I wrote in the comments of my original article, I have turned down many interview requests for TV and radio. I turn them down because I am not trained in television interview techniques, specifically how to deal with a hostile interviewer."


BREAKING: Jim Sullivan Responds, He is NOT Anti-Civilian AR-15, HBO Selectively Edited the Interview - The Firearm Blog
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Old 06-16-2016, 11:02 AM
 
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JOHN YANG: The NRA says it’s America’s most popular rifle, used legally and safely by millions of people. A lawyer for victims’ families says it’s the gold standard for mass murder of innocent civilians.

The AR-15 has been used in some of the nation’s worst mass shootings, at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, an Oregon community college, and now an Orlando gay club.

To learn more about the rifle, its popularity among gun enthusiasts and its place in American culture, we went to a Northern Virginia gun range to speak with former Deputy Assistant Defense Secretary Phillip Carter, himself a gun owner, who knows the AR-15 well from his service as an Army officer.

Why is this weapon so popular?

It
Editor’s note: This story focused on the AR-15 rifle, which was the weapon used in several recent mass shootings. Orlando law enforcement officials initially said this was the same gun type used in the Pulse nightclub shooting, but later clarified that the Orlando shooter was using a Sig Sauer MCX. The Sig Sauer MCX is a rifle with several similarities to the AR 15-style and was originally designed for use by U.S. special operation forces. The NewsHour regrets the confusion.​

Me too...
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