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I think it's OK for law enforcement to carry guns, but ordinary citizens - no, sorry. There are way too many crazies out there for me to be okay with that.
That's why gun ownership should require a psych test every six months by the APA.
I think it's OK for law enforcement to carry guns, but ordinary citizens - no, sorry. There are way too many crazies out there for me to be okay with that.
The crazies are going to have their guns anyway.
Unfortuantely, if you banned all guns, they would be just as banned as the illegal drugs are. And we know how well that works.
Bombs are also illegal and guess what, some one tried to blow up a court house in LA this morning.
If they could ban guns and ensure that the the bad guys wouldn't have them, I could be happy with that. But it isn't going to happen.
Austrailia: Has banned guns, swords, knives. "Gun" deaths are down, murder and crime are rising.
Same thing with England.
You see, the bad guys don't follow the rules and they, very easly, get the tools they need to do their job.
I'll take the responsibility for protecting my self.
I actually feel this is an intelligent and well-worded post. After reading it twice, I gave it some thought and couldn't agree more.
Also - those who use the excuse "guns don't kill people, people kill people" and "that's like blaming my pencil for a spelling error" are not comparing apples to apples. When was the last time a pencil was blamed for a mass killing? It's a helluva lot easier to pull a trigger and shoot someone dead than to use even a knife to kill somebody. What good are pistols, other than for police officers? Other than 'target practice' a pistol is a meaningless weapon.
As for those who claim that mass shootings wouldn't have happened if other people were carrying guns, well they're currently allowed to, but they weren't. So that's null and void. If everyone started carrying guns, small arguments would turn into shootouts, road rage would become more intense and think of the regulations that would have to be put on simple travel - flying, trains, buses, boats.
The Second Amendment should be done away with.
actually, if you look at the areas where these mass killings are happening, theya re "gun free zones" you are not allowd by law to carry a gun in a "gun free" zone, which includes schools, hospitals and government buildngs.
If you look at the crime statistics in Colorado, pre CCW permit, and post CCW permit, you will see that there was a decrease in violent crime. This indeed shows that criminals are more apt to think twice about comiting a violent crime if they might face someone with a gun.
I have never seen nor heard of a gun killing people. There is ALWAYS a person behind the trigger, so yes, people kill people, guns do not.
How about we get rid of our first amendment right too? People say things that do indeed get people killed, IE racial slurs, provocation words, and other various forms of taunts hell even cartoons are getting people killed these days (see dutch comics that had riots from muslums all over the world). They hurt and can kill, lets just get rid of our first amendment right.
actually, if you look at the areas where these mass killings are happening, theya re "gun free zones" you are not allowd by law to carry a gun in a "gun free" zone, which includes schools, hospitals and government buildngs.
Actually, the states where 100% of the mass killings occur are in states with less strict gun laws. When is the last time you heard of a mass killing in New England where typically gun ownership is fairly hard to obtain?
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I have never seen nor heard of a gun killing people. There is ALWAYS a person behind the trigger, so yes, people kill people, guns do not.
You're right, but guns make it THAT much easier for someone to accomplish a deadly task when they're enraged.
Actually, the states where 100% of the mass killings occur are in states with less strict gun laws. When is the last time you heard of a mass killing in New England where typically gun ownership is fairly hard to obtain?
reread above for the "gun free zones" law abiding citizens are not going to bring a firearm into these zones due to the legal consequences, thus only criminals are going to bring the firearms into these areas, which makes it like shooting fish in a barrel.
You're right, but guns make it THAT much easier for someone to accomplish a deadly task when they're enraged.
Maine, Vermont, and New Hampshire, have very lax gun control laws. If you can qualify to purchase you can conceal. It is only a matter of time until someone in the new england states thinks they can make a name for themselves by killing. They can get a gun anywhere, legal or not.
I can take an automobile and drive it into one of our Colorado open street malls and mow down quite a few people, I think that is easier than using a gun.
Guns make it much more easy to protect yourselves from a criminal that has his mind set on taking your life. They can get a gun no matter where they go, if they are made illegal, they will defiantly buy them illegally. If they are legal, they will probably still get them illegally.
Taking guns from law abiding citizens is removing any sort of defense they have from criminals that will kill you for your shoes.
"Currently, this country has more than 20,000 gun control laws, and a study by the Centers for Disease Control has concluded that not a single one of them has done anything to reduce crime. It is the gun-free zones that should be outlawed. Those supposed gun-free zones are nothing more than victim-rich killing zones where madmen can kill as many people as they choose, and the law-abiding can do nothing to protect themselves."
SunJournal.com - Killing zones (http://www.sunjournal.com/story/243419-3/LetterstotheEditor/Killing_zones/ - broken link)
I think it's OK for law enforcement to carry guns, but ordinary citizens - no, sorry. There are way too many crazies out there for me to be okay with that.
But guns can keep ordinary citizens safer. Just try being a 105 lb female working until 2AM and walking home alone. Without a gun, how is she going to fend off three would-be rapists/murderers? Or should we pay more taxes so everybody can have a personal escort when they feel unsafe?
How about the little old retired couple who live in a rapidly decaying neighborhood being infested with crack dealers. They are low income and cannot afford to move and somebody just poisoned their dog. Are you saying they should not be able to have a gun inside their own home to protect themselves?
No, they don't. People have a tendency to become trigger happy. That's not safe, IMO.
wow, thats a cut and paste lol. I have quite a few friends that have had CCW permits for YEARS. They have not ever had to pull their weapons, nor have they harmed anyone with the firearms they own.
Please present some evidence to back up your claim. I see that violent crime is usually committed by criminals, not law abiding citizens with firearms. I have a link several pages back from our government to support the statement.
And I loved the response to my post about the gun laws in several New England states.
here is a link to some of the Vermont gun laws. lol they require nothing but what is federally mandated to own, possess, and carry What are the Gun Laws in Vermont?
we can also look back into the English gun ban, which is the "shining example" for how well all out gun bans work (yes sarcastic) Reason Magazine - Gun Control's Twisted Outcome
this article points out that there is an increasing amount of gun violence in Britain, even though there is very very tight gun laws.
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Or should we pay more taxes so everybody can have a personal escort when they feel unsafe? 
