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Old 06-21-2016, 06:49 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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We just need to keep telling the truth, and making people aware of the consequences. When our fellow citizens understand the big picture they generally want what we want.
How can you tell "the truth" when you can't even define who the people are you allege it's time for to standup?
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Old 06-26-2016, 02:15 PM
 
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I think he should also tell us just why these supposed "Real Americans" have been sitting on their asses all this time.
I have explained my position many times. It's not my fault that you can't comprehend basic stuff. The "real americans" are very similar to "real Britians".

What I am talking about are patriotic americans. Productive members of our country who contribute to the USA. So, illegal immigrants, career felons, etc. do not qualify.
I'm all for giving people a 2nd chance, but not 100 chances. And, I'm all for giving people an opportunity, and even some monetary assistance to get back on their feet.
But, 22 years of welfare checks? Drug rehab, jail, rehab, jail... And these people want more rights? NO!
I'm talking about the people who fight FOR our country, not against it. Waiving a Mexican flag on 4th of July? NOT a real american! waiving an ISIS flag? Nope, not you either.
It's a simple concept to understand!
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Old 06-26-2016, 02:23 PM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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The ONLY POSSIBLE JUST role of ANY form of government is limited ONLY to being a retaliatory force against those who initiate force upon others. The moment that government initiates force upon any person for any reason it is simply and evil and immoral institution with no place in the realm of humanity...

No person, group, or government ever has a right to initiate force upon any person, group, or government for any reason whatsoever. Clearly their is nothing to be 'patriotic' about. An evil and immoral aggressor is nothing to salute or be proud of. A REAL American who believes in human freedom is embarrassed and disgusted by this form of "government" that exists today.
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Old 06-26-2016, 02:31 PM
 
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The ONLY POSSIBLE JUST role of ANY form of government is limited ONLY to being a retaliatory force against those who initiate force upon others. The moment that government initiates force upon any person for any reason it is simply and evil and immoral institution with no place in the realm of humanity...

No person, group, or government ever has a right to initiate force upon any person, group, or government for any reason whatsoever. Clearly their is nothing to be 'patriotic' about. An evil and immoral aggressor is nothing to salute or be proud of. A REAL American who believes in human freedom is embarrassed and disgusted by this form of "government" that exists today.
You are confusing the "form of gov't" with the "leaders" who are currently in power.
When I say "patriotic, I am talking about love of country. Not love of a president, or a senator.
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Old 06-26-2016, 02:35 PM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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You are confusing the "form of gov't" with the "leaders" who are currently in power.
When I say "patriotic, I am talking about love of country. Not love of a president, or a senator.
No confusion really. "Our" form of government is nothing but a weapon of aggression against our neighbors. It is immoral and evil as are all forms of aggression. When the government obeys the non-aggression principle and serves ONLY as a retaliatory force, then I would be "patriotic". But until that day, it is nothing more than a common thug pretending to have some sort of right to initiate force upon the individual. And no person, group, or government ever has such a right.
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Old 06-26-2016, 02:40 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I have explained my position many times. It's not my fault that you can't comprehend basic stuff. The "real americans" are very similar to "real Britians".

What I am talking about are patriotic americans. Productive members of our country who contribute to the USA. So, illegal immigrants, career felons, etc. do not qualify.
I'm all for giving people a 2nd chance, but not 100 chances. And, I'm all for giving people an opportunity, and even some monetary assistance to get back on their feet.
But, 22 years of welfare checks? Drug rehab, jail, rehab, jail... And these people want more rights? NO!
I'm talking about the people who fight FOR our country, not against it. Waiving a Mexican flag on 4th of July? NOT a real american! waiving an ISIS flag? Nope, not you either.
It's a simple concept to understand!

There was a day, being disrespectful meant they were looking for a fight. Today it is asking for a handout.
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Old 06-26-2016, 02:49 PM
 
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Who is his VP pick? I read that he is considering Santorum? That would be great. I was thinking Guiliani or Rand Paul. I don't think Paul is willing to do it though. Jeb Bush would be great if he could get over himself.
It's too bad that we don't have a General Swartzkofpf or Patton, or Eizenhower to choose from.

Wait. You start a thread about kicking out the established politicians and then you thrown in all of these career politicians for VP? And Gulianni? Pro gun control, pro abortion, pro ( or very soft) on illegal immigration, ant-school prayer Are trying to balance the ticket with polar opposites?
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Old 06-26-2016, 02:49 PM
 
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There was a day, being disrespectful meant they were looking for a fight. Today it is asking for a handout.
Is it better to give a man (person) a fish, or to teach him how to fish? Opportunity is the key! Min wage, promotions, advancement. I'm not in favor of the plan where people can (and are encouraged) get welfare for years and years whether they work or not.
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Old 06-26-2016, 02:54 PM
 
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Wait. You start a thread about kicking out the established politicians and then you thrown in all of these career politicians for VP? And Gulianni? Pro gun control, pro abortion, pro ( or very soft) on illegal immigration, ant-school prayer Are trying to balance the ticket with polar opposites?
I just know that Guliani was good or NYC. As for Paul and Santorum, I wouldn't call them career politicians. Rand Paul is always butting heads with other senators. Santorum is pro-life and pro-family, and pro-Israel
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