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View Poll Results: Should Republicans ally with Muslims to defeat Roe v Wade?
Yes 3 9.68%
No 24 77.42%
Not sure/don't know 4 12.90%
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Old 06-21-2016, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Oh I totally get that many right-wing pro-life people think that terrorism is more important than abortion. But the question is: WHY?

If 53 million kids have been MURDERED since 1973, and that is what the Republican party has been saying, why in the world would those same Republicans then think that TERRORISM is more important than Abortion, when terrorism has killed such a relatively insignificant number of Americans?

Again, I believe only 30 or so Muslims have actually attacked America since 1973. Thirty. Maybe I'm wrong and it's 100. Or 1000. Or 10000. Even if it's 10000 how would Muslim terrorism hold a candle to the mass slaughter of 53 million children since 1973???



You're assuming that all Republicans are Christians and therefore all Republicans must be anti abortion.......

Conservative is not a religion, it's not a race, it's not a sexual orientation.

Plenty of fiscal Conservatives out there whose social views range from left to right depending on the issue.


But one thing we all have in common...nobody is gonna salute what you're trying to run up the flagpole.

 
Old 06-21-2016, 08:48 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Right-wing Christianity's intolerance of Islam proves that right-wing Christians don't actually believe abortion is murder.............
Doesn't "prove" squat. Not all right wingers are Christian.

Life is a bit more complicated than pinheads make it out to be. I am a right winger who will never vote for a Democrat. I am also pro-choice.

Sorta blows all your theories outa the water, doesn't it?
 
Old 06-21-2016, 08:57 PM
 
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Doesn't "prove" squat. Not all right wingers are Christian.

Life is a bit more complicated than pinheads make it out to be. I am a right winger who will never vote for a Democrat. I am also pro-choice.

Sorta blows all your theories outa the water, doesn't it?
Considering pro-life policies are enshrined in the GOP platform, not really.

https://www.gop.com/topic/family-val...ife/canonical/

Also considering that you're just one person and statistics/polls overwhelmingly show that nearly all Republicans are PRO-LIFE, one wonders how you could've possibly thought what you said "blows my theory out of the water"

And considering every Republican candidate in the past 30 years has probably been pro-life, one again wonders how in the world anyone could think anything was blown out of the water. Every Republican candidate in this election cycle was pro-life too (correct me if i'm wrong)

I mean, for crying out loud, polls show that something like 10-20% of Republicans think SOCIALISM is better than Capitalism. Am I seriously supposed to describe the Republican party as a socialist party because a small minority of its supporters prefer socialism over capitalism?
 
Old 06-21-2016, 09:00 PM
 
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This is why we need better mental health coverage.
 
Old 06-21-2016, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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Doesn't "prove" squat. Not all right wingers are Christian.

Life is a bit more complicated than pinheads make it out to be. I am a right winger who will never vote for a Democrat. I am also pro-choice.

Sorta blows all your theories outa the water, doesn't it?

Exactly! The Majority of Americans are "Pro Choice" regardless of what those trumped up polls say. And every year, that number will rise and rise.


The OPs idea of letting in all those Muslims who kill their people for Abortion related thinking, kill their people for being Gay, and kill people for drawing cartoons of their God, is not exactly the answer to any problems we may have. Even to suggest it is ludicrous.
 
Old 06-21-2016, 09:05 PM
 
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I also typically vote Republican and am grudgingly pro-choice. Mostly because a woman who would kill her kid would make a **** mother.
 
Old 06-21-2016, 09:07 PM
 
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Look like I was wrong. Pataki was pro-choice. Ooh. Pataki. Did he get 1% of the vote even?

https://ballotpedia.org/2016_preside...es_on_abortion
 
Old 06-21-2016, 09:11 PM
 
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Exactly! The Majority of Americans are "Pro Choice" regardless of what those trumped up polls say. And every year, that number will rise and rise.


The OPs idea of letting in all those Muslims who kill their people for Abortion related thinking, kill their people for being Gay, and kill people for drawing cartoons of their God, is not exactly the answer to any problems we may have. Even to suggest it is ludicrous.

Elaborate your thinking on this. Again, maybe 30 Muslims have actually attacked and killed Americans since 1973.

Meanwhile, since 1973, over 30 million American parents have killed about 53 million children, per the thinking of the Republican party.

And Muslims are the most pro-life demographic on the planet, it seems.

I just calculated that only 12% of the world's Muslim population has abortion laws as liberal as America's.

88% of Muslims live in countries where abortion is outlawed except when the mother's health is at risk.

Abortion law in Muslim-majority countries: an overview of the Islamic discourse with policy implications

You talk about killing gay people. OK, how many gays have been killed by Muslims since 1973? 53 million? No?

How many people have been killed for drawing Mohammed (not their God by the way, remember that Muslims have the SAME God as Christians do)? 53 million? no?
 
Old 06-21-2016, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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This Gallup article shows how between 43-57% of Americans thought abortion was murder in 1998 and 2000

That was 20 years ago. Today, Pro lifers are at their lowest numbers ever, and dropping like dead flies.


At the end of the day, in our Society, its a woman's decision, and the vast Majority of them are pro-choice, and that's the way it is.
 
Old 06-21-2016, 09:19 PM
 
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I'll post this again:
https://ballotpedia.org/2016_preside...es_on_abortion

The above link shows that, besides Pataki, all the Republican candidates have the same views on abortion as that 88% of the worldwide Muslim population does: abortion should be outlawed except when the mom is in danger.

Some Republicans think that rape/incest fetuses should be permissible to abort as well, and some Muslims agree with that.

Here's the thing: NONE of the Democratic candidates agree with that 88% of the Muslim world, or the non-Pataki Republican world.

If abortion is murder, then what the heck are you people doing alienating and discriminating against the largest anti-abortion group in the entire world: Muslims?

Republicans have NO chance of overturning Roe v Wade at the rate you are going. And as you continue to hopelessly fight against Roe v Wade, millions of unborn children will continue to be "murdered".

Even in the next 24 hours there will be 2,800 abortions in America. That, according to Republican official party doctrine, is 2,800 MURDERS in 24 hours. That is 56 times the death toll of the Orlando night club shooting. That is almost the equivalent of 9/11's death toll. In just one day.

So I really want to hear this from a pro-life Republican: abortion is NOT murder.

OR.

Abortion IS murder and I don't care how anti-abortion Muslims are, fighting abortion is NOT worth Muslim immigration in the US.
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