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You don't get the security and lack of risk associated with working for someone else AND get to tell them what they will and will not offer you to work for them.
Of course you do. Thats why we have worker's rights. Are you against all worker's rights? It is more important than ever now that unions are severely weakened, which provided a certain balance of power between worker and employer.
Thanks! I enjoy the benefits my employers have provided me in return for my labor. Currently I have 2 weeks. Historically, I have had as many as 5 weeks paid vacation.
60 hour work weeks never went away. At least to those of us who take pride in our efforts and seek to produce quality work, output, products when necessary.
Hmm, 60 plus hours a week and just two weeks off a year. Honestly, I don't think you have a great employer. But, as long as there are folks that need to put food in the table your employer rips the benefits. As I said above this is a form is slavery.
You missed his post about how your odds of starting your own business is the same as being a pro golfer. Lol
The odds of being a *successful* business owner. 99% of businesses fail. Which, although admittedly higher than the chances of becoming a pro golfer, are not great odds when you've got rent to pay and mouths to feed.
Not taking a break doesn't make you a more productive worker, in fact, it often has the opposite effect. There are always going to be a few stray outliers of exceptional people who don't see this decline in productivity, but they are the exception in the vast majority of cases.
It's not doing your health (physical or mental) any favors to burn yourself out, but it doesn't really help your employer either. It just makes people more miserable, depressed, and resentful that their lives are spiraling out of control and they don't have proper time to bond with their families the way they need to, or look after their own physical or mental health. So they end up spending most or all of their working time in burnout mode even though they're present more hours.
But some people lack the foresight and compassion to see this.
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I also guarantee that basketball coaches evaluate ball handling skills.
I also guarantee medical schools look at the grades of prospective students.
I guarantee that if you had a company selling a widget for $15 and your labor costs were $15, you'd go out of business. You can argue until you are blue in the face that cost of labor isn't relative to your business, but that won't keep the lights on.
Your arithmetic is good, but you miss the point every time.
An advanced society somehow finds a way to move forward with a better standard of living. You keep preaching the jungle where the lion eats the prey and your only suggestion is to become a predator. This is how things worked in the past when we had slavery. However, we are moving forward to a better future.
No. That should be negotiated between the employee and employer without government interference.
[like salary, benefits, etc.]
Who's holding all the cards in a negotiation like that? And do you think it's proper for one employee in say, a nursing group to get six weeks, b/c she drove a hard bargain and/or bargained against a milquetoast, while another employee doing the same job gets one week because she's meek and/or she bargained against a hard-a**?
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Originally Posted by Northeastah
you shouldn't guarantee things like this, you're wrong. Europeans are known for getting extended vacations as is Japan. even China shuts down for a month at a time for their New Year's celebrations.
Did you see the chart in the post below? No country gets more than 30 days vacation, and most get 20. (China is not on the chart). As for holidays, 5 countries get 0-The US, The Netherlands, Switzerland, Sweden and the UK. Three get 13-Austria, Portugal and Italy. The latter two have pretty poor economies. The average is 6; or 8 if you exclude the 5 with 0.
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Originally Posted by wolf39us
I absolutely support mandatory time off. Practically the only advanced country without guaranteed vacation?
I think a mandatory two weeks paid vacation would be great.
"The United States is the only developed country in the world without a single legally required paid vacation day or holiday. By law, every country in the European Union has at least four work weeks of paid vacation.
Austria, which guarantees workers the most time off, has a legal minimum of 22 paid vacation days and 13 paid holidays each year. The average private sector U.S. worker receives 16 paid vacation days and holidays. One in four Americans does not have a single paid day off."
Right wingers love family values, correct? And feel govt should protect family values. Yet, American families work incredibly long hours and have the lowest amount of vacation time in the developed world. Whats so great about this? Are you against all worker's rights? No weekend, no 40 hour work week, you want back to the 19th century?
But state enforced mandates aren't representative of family values. They take away the choice from individuals in a family and put the decision in the hands of the state/government. Also, everyone who doesn't answer yes isn't a 'right winger'.
Did you see the chart in the post below? No country gets more than 30 days vacation, and most get 20. (China is not on the chart). As for holidays, 5 countries get 0-The US, The Netherlands, Switzerland, Sweden and the UK. Three get 13-Austria, Portugal and Italy. The latter two have pretty poor economies. The average is 6; or 8 if you exclude the 5 with 0.
Keep in mind, that even if countries have 0 mandatory paid holidays, they can have ALOT of mandatory UNPAID holidays. The US of course has neither.
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