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Old 06-25-2016, 03:06 PM
 
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So what would happen if they did?

1. 31 Military installations in the state, make that the new country, would shut down and have to re-locate back into the US. That's ok though, they don't contribute much to their local economies.... cough..cough.

2. NFL teams would have to relocate to the US.... Cowboys and Texans.

3. NBA teams would have to relocate to the US...... Mavericks, Rockets & Spurs.

4. MLB teams would have to relocate to the U.S......Astros & Rangers.

5. A host of other associated teams..... out.

6. The universites.. no more NCAA.... form their own TCAA.... and play each other in the country of Texas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_sports_teams

7. Federal facilities like courthouses, parks, etc. will have to be closed.

8. Federal funding for highways, airports, universities.... no more.

9. Disaster relief, postal service, federal law enforcement.. no more.

10. Many big companies there would either relocate to US or downsize.

11. If Texan secessionists want any of the above srvices in their newly minted country, get ready to create and fund them.

Did I leave anything out?

What would happen if Texas actually seceded?
Of course the federal facilities, universities and bases would have to be closed, we wouldn't need them! No Texans to serve! Do you think the other 49 states need Texas to deliver their mail, disaster relief or play sports? As for companies, they could choose to stay or go, companies have locations outside of the US now, no big deal. And we can stop listening to Texas' dumb ideas on textbooks. This is an all around win.
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Old 06-25-2016, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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Throughout history secession has been fairly common in many areas of the world.

For those to dismiss this as "crazy", "just a bunch of nuts", etc don't know their history. Even in our own backyard, the civil war, didn't happen all that long ago. And for those paying attention, we are a very divided nation today, getting more divided.
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Old 06-25-2016, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Not.here
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Throughout the world secession has been fairly common in many areas of the world.

For those to dismiss this as "crazy", "just a bunch of nuts", etc don't know their history. Even in our own backyard, the civil war, didn't happen all that long ago. And for those paying attention, we are a very divided nation today, getting more divided.
This is not our great-grandparents world of the horse and buggy era. Unless someone wants to go back to that.
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Old 06-25-2016, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Throughout history secession has been fairly common in many areas of the world.

For those to dismiss this as "crazy", "just a bunch of nuts", etc don't know their history. Even in our own backyard, the civil war, didn't happen all that long ago. And for those paying attention, we are a very divided nation today, getting more divided.
I live in Texas, there is little support for succession.
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Old 06-25-2016, 03:20 PM
 
Location: louisville
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Sure are a lot of Texas haters today
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Old 06-25-2016, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Not.here
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Sure are a lot of Texas haters today
Don't confuse hating with pointing out reality... after the rubber meets the road.
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Old 06-25-2016, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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1. 31 Military installations in the state, make that the new country, would shut down and have to re-locate back into the US. That's ok though, they don't contribute much to their local economies.... cough..cough.
7. Federal facilities like courthouses, parks, etc. will have to be closed.
8. Federal funding for highways, airports, universities.... no more.
Who do you think is already paying for these military installations, highways, airports, universities, and federal facilities? Taxpayers. And Texas sends more to the Federal Government than it gets back.

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2. NFL teams would have to relocate to the US.... Cowboys and Texans.
3. NBA teams would have to relocate to the US...... Mavericks, Rockets & Spurs.
4. MLB teams would have to relocate to the U.S......Astros & Rangers.
5. A host of other associated teams..... out.
6. The universites.. no more NCAA.... form their own TCAA.... and play each other in the country of Texas.
Do you know anything about European "Soccer"(football)? Half the countries/teams in the European football league, aren't even in the European Union. I mean, Russia and Turkey are in the European football league.

Furthermore, while I acknowledge that there are no NBA or NFL teams outside this country, several MLB teams are in Canada. I mean, look at the NHL, half the teams are Canadian. You're being ridiculous.


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9. Disaster relief, postal service, federal law enforcement.. no more.
You do realize that Texas is bigger than most countries? Right? Texas has a population larger than Australia. And Australia is usually held up as a "model country". Can Australia not provide postal service and disaster relief? Is their government incompetent?

This list is pathetic.

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10. Many big companies there would either relocate to US or downsize.
The "economic" argument is the only reasonable argument against both Brexit and Texit. The Texas economy is incredibly integrated into the rest of the country, and Texas secession would leave most of the companies who do business in Texas, outside its borders, and dependent on trade treaties/rules/regulations between two foreign countries. No Texas company that does business outside Texas wants Texas to secede. And no American company that does business in Texas wants Texas to secede. And they will use their economic muscle to prevent it from happening, usually by making lists like this to terrify the people.


Of course, Texas would be a fool to leave the union, but only for one reason. The United States controls the "World's Reserve Currency", and has the greatest counterfeiting operation in world history, the "Federal Reserve". If Texas tried to create its own currency, its economy would suffer. If Texas used the US dollar outside the Federal Union, its economy would suffer(and it would be manipulated-by, and dependent-upon US monetary policy).


The UK already has its own currency, and it has its own counterfeiting operation going back hundreds of years, the "Bank of England". And its economy is already built on international finance, and its banks already have significant capital. Texas would have to build up its financial sector largely from scratch.


Capital rules. Both individuals, and governments.

"A man who is without capital, and who, by prohibitions upon banking, is practically forbidden to hire any, is in a condition elevated but one degree above that of a chattel slave. He may live; but he can live only as the servant of others; compelled to perform such labor, and to perform it at such prices, as they may see fit to dictate." - Lysander Spooner

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/qu...rsp537765.html

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Old 06-25-2016, 03:55 PM
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Location: Middle Tennessee
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I believe that if Texas does leave the US, one of the absolute terms should be that they have to take Louie Gohmert with them. If they don't agree to that, no deal.
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Old 06-25-2016, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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LOL @ the dupes who see a handful of crackpots here & there trying to make some noise on the internet or TV. The last bunch of "Texas secessionists" that made some desperate news filler was a dozen or so idiots led by a carpetbagger redneck from Missouri. I think they met in a honkytonk beer joint now & then.

None of our governors have "threatened" secession - that's just a fantasy conjured up by fools when someone asked that Perry idjit if it was possible, then blew his comment up into something it wasn't. Anything is possible, including Hillary actually telling the truth, but it ain't gonna happen unless there's some kind of catastrophic Armageddon.

260,000 calling for secession on an Internet site? Another LOL - I've signed similar petitions for Quebec and Scotland years ago.

The first Americans who actually threatened secession were Yankees from Bernie's neck of the woods - read up on the Hartford Convention.
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Old 06-25-2016, 04:12 PM
 
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LOL @ the dupes who see a handful of crackpots here & there trying to make some noise on the internet or TV. The last bunch of "Texas secessionists" that made some desperate news filler was a dozen or so idiots led by a carpetbagger redneck from Missouri. I think they met in a honkytonk beer joint now & then.

None of our governors have "threatened" secession - that's just a fantasy conjured up by fools when someone asked that Perry idjit if it was possible, then blew his comment up into something it wasn't. Anything is possible, including Hillary actually telling the truth, but it ain't gonna happen unless there's some kind of catastrophic Armageddon.

260,000 calling for secession on an Internet site? Another LOL - I've signed similar petitions for Quebec and Scotland years ago.

The first Americans who actually threatened secession were Yankees from Bernie's neck of the woods - read up on the Hartford Convention.
Another embarrassed Texan. Just know we fully support your departure.

Update: An effort to force a floor vote on secession at the ongoing Texas Republican Party convention came up two votes shy in a committee on Friday. This post has been updated.

Texas Republicans barely avoided having to vote on whether Texas should secede from the United States on Friday...the fact we’re even mentioning secession and the Texas GOP convention in the same sentence suggests that the once-fringe movement has become a priority for at least some conservative grass-roots Texans.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nd-of-serious/
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