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Old 09-11-2016, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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[quote=rbohm;45431354]you do realize that you can respect someone even though you disagree with the things they do, right?[/QUOTE

Trump compared Obama's domestic favorability rating with Putin's.

Autocrat envy comes to mind.
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Old 09-11-2016, 06:45 PM
 
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I'm of the opinion that global geopolitics is very complicated....it is easy to pick a position of support that puts mud on your face.

Most people probably do not have a clear picture as to why any leader/ruler/president/king/dictator does what they do. Syria, LOL, how is the good-guy in that nightmare scenario.

The USA bombed the Serbs......I guess that is justified in the minds of some.

So Putin probably has quiet a few clear and reasonable justifications for what he does as a leader of Russia.
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Old 09-11-2016, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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lmao. No we're not.

You see, that's the difference between Conservatives and Liberals: Liberals never met a Liberal's policy they didn't agree with. They're ideologues, so it's a requirement.

Liberal clowns are so amusing!
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Old 09-11-2016, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Real Conservatives know Russia is still an enemy of the USA. Trump is not a true Conservative. Ted Cruz is, but for some reason, Trump voters think he is better then anyone else.
In what way, Russia is STILL an enemy of the USA?
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Old 09-11-2016, 10:28 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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When you are a quasi-dictator with sweeping powers to silence and even murder your critics, it's kinda easy to be a branded a "strong leader."

You can say the same thing of Kim Jong Dip**** over in North Korea. He's a Strong Leader! His countrymen and women do exactly what he says, and he never acknowledges any criticisms either.

Think about that next time you get off all over Putin. The hell is wrong with some of you people? Now you're fawning all over a figure whose leadership style is in violent conflict with the kinds of Constitutional values you claim to support? You're not serious people. And kissing this guy's ass is not "strong leadership."

That is all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS2a44F5TgM
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Old 09-11-2016, 10:44 PM
 
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Why do I need to defend Putin?


Because the liberals need a boogeyman and the ex-KGB oligarch in charge of Russia sees Obama as the weak kneed leader he is and treats accordingly? Yeah, that's common sense. So is understanding and respecting a leader that can carry the populous, for good or ill, instead of trying to write them off which is how wars start (because real foreign policy isn't the same as the gender studies professors guide to the world).


Try not calling everyone who disagrees with you a racist homophobic Putin-lover and actually understand the real world in which we live. It's easy when you have the media supporting you, until you talk to conservatives who don't care about that and will throw facts right in your face.
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Old 09-12-2016, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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When you are a quasi-dictator with sweeping powers to silence and even murder your critics, it's kinda easy to be a branded a "strong leader."...
...Now you're fawning all over a figure whose leadership style is in violent conflict with the kinds of Constitutional values you claim to support?
Your post is one of the best example of a brainwashed sheep parroting the lying media.
Sigh, but there are kind of people who would easily believe any allegations without a critical thinking because they want themselves the allegations were truth.
Putin didn't murder any of his critics, and whole intelligent Russia knows it.
There is no any even a small real evidence that proves Putin is behind a murder.
And Putin had no conflict with the Constitutional values of his country.
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Old 09-12-2016, 06:19 AM
 
Location: US
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Real Conservatives know Russia is still an enemy of the USA. Trump is not a true Conservative. Ted Cruz is, but for some reason, Trump voters think he is better then anyone else.
Real conservatives? Oh, you mean the NeoCons. Ted is done stick a fork in it.
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Old 09-12-2016, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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So we should let Putin steamroll across the Baltics and Central Asia?
He does it? Where did you get this delusion from?
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Old 09-12-2016, 06:30 PM
 
Location: USA
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Exactly! Plus, its good to have an ALLY that borders China.

Of course, Giggles the socialist would rather pal around with Chavez, Maduro, and Castro
Not to mention his Communist buddy's who are his heros. Obama, the man who helped depose the leader and destroying the sovereignty of Libya and now Syria has more in common with Putin than his supporters can admit to. Obama vs. Putin = same.
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