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Perfect example/ - Carl Marx used his daughter as a tool to engage woman and bring them into the communist quagmire. Hitler also believed that if you gain control of the woman...the children will follow and the men will then follow like beaten dogs.
Feminism 1960's 2nd wave onward was a combination of wanting to put more women in the workforce to drive down wages and to increase consumption, bored housewives and girlfriends that wanted to have fun with hunks without it being taboo, cuckolding the country and group identity politics for other socialist/communist politico-social ends.
Reproductive rights, breast cancer, domestic violence, they already get plenty of attention. Women already get education. Body image, well that's their own responsibility.
Women already get way more than their fair share of attention in many things. Yet they still crave for more. Even children don't demand that much attention.
Maybe it's time for feminists to say thank you to men for creating civilization, pack their bags, and go home. And men really need to stop worshipping women. Women are nothing special.
Do you say this shi* to your mother? I'd ask if you say it to your daughters, but it's CLEAR you don't have one.
Feminism in US is a first-world problem, like being served coffee without enough cream on it.
What is disturbing about these Feminists is how they are always silent when it comes to the abuse of women under Sharia Law.
In many cases they outright support groups that are Anti-women. Hillary's comments that; we need to empathize with the Taliban, or the Democrat Party's support of groups like the fascist Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
Right back at ya.
What is disturbing about these American men (who claim to be concerned about the abuse of women under Sharia Law) is how they're always silent when it comes to the abuse and assault of women in the United States. Heck, you want to elect a man who's routinely disrespectful to women and has proudly admitted to assaulting them.
You guys might fool yourselves into believing that you actually care about the well-being of women, but you don't fool the rest of us.
What is disturbing about these American men (who claim to be concerned about the abuse of women under Sharia Law) is how they're always silent when it comes to the abuse and assault of women in the United States.
You guys might fool yourself into believing that you actually care about the well-being of women, but you don't fool the rest of us.
And I'm sure you are not only silent but intolerant of men who complain of society's abuse of them.
And I'm sure you are not only silent but intolerant of men who complain of society's abuse of them.
Could you be specific about this abuse? Because, regardless of any inroads "feminism" has made, the overwhelming majority of real power in this world is held by MEN. The overwhelming majority of poltical, economic, religious, and social decisions made in this world, that affect us all, such as waging war, are made by MEN. As much as things have changed, they've remained pretty much the same.
I say this as the mother of two teen boys whom I worship and who I have nurtured to grow into great men. I want nothing but the best for them. I love men. But I'm also an intelligent woman who knows what it's like to be a woman in the United States. I also had a great relationship with my father, who had very conservative ideas about women in some ways. Yet, he raised me to be strong and to demand respect, and he would be disgusted by the male presidential candidate.
As I always say, nothing changes a man's attitudes about women (and feminism) more than does becoming a father of a daughter. Are you the father of a daughter?
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What is disturbing about these American men (who claim to be concerned about the abuse of women under Sharia Law) is how they're always silent when it comes to the abuse and assault of women in the United States. Heck, you want to elect a man who's routinely disrespectful to women and has proudly admitted to assaulting them.
Lots of American men knows that abuse and assault of women is wrong and a crime. They stay silent until one of their female friends or relatives becomes a victim. Heck, many Americans supported Former President Bill Clinton who has assaulted women and his wife, Hillary who threw them under the rug.
Could you be specific about this abuse? Because, regardless of any inroads "feminism" has made, the overwhelming majority of real power in this world is held by MEN. The overwhelming majority of poltical, economic, religious, and social decisions made in this world, that affect us all, such as waging war, are made by MEN. As much as things have changed, they've remained pretty much the same.
I say this as the mother of two teen boys whom I worship and who I have nurtured to grow into great men. I want nothing but the best for them. I love men. But I'm also an intelligent woman who knows what it's like to be a woman in the United States. I also had a great relationship with my father, who had very conservative ideas about women in some ways. Yet, he raised me to be strong and to demand respect, and he would be disgusted by the male presidential candidate.
As I always say, nothing changes a man's attitudes about women (and feminism) more than does becoming a father of a daughter. Are you the father of a daughter?
And you all need to get over it.
Feminism is not about equality because there would be respect. Feminists have no respect for males at all. They want to bash, berate, hate, spit at, sneer, curse, and tear men down for being men. If a female was so sure of herself, so comfortable with herself, wasn't filled with hateful envy, she wouldn't need to bash on males to try to gain an advantage. She would simply prove that she could do whatever it is that she wants, just as well as a man.
You don't "demand" respect, you earn it. You try to tell someone, "you respect me or else..." they aren't going to respect you. You don't have to demand it if you have a clue what you're doing. The only people who demand it are the people who don't have the skills necessary to be in a position that is respected.
If you're good at what you do, the respect will come naturally.
Feminism is not about equality because there would be respect. Feminists have no respect for males at all. They want to bash, berate, hate, spit at, sneer, curse, and tear men down for being men. If a female was so sure of herself, so comfortable with herself, wasn't filled with hateful envy, she wouldn't need to bash on males to try to gain an advantage. She would simply prove that she could do whatever it is that she wants, just as well as a man.
You don't "demand" respect, you earn it. You try to tell someone, "you respect me or else..." they aren't going to respect you. You don't have to demand it if you have a clue what you're doing. The only people who demand it are the people who don't have the skills necessary to be in a position that is respected.
If you're good at what you do, the respect will come naturally.
Whaddya, my motha?
"You all"? Who are you speaking to?
It seems YOU need to get over it. Who says "feminists" don't respect men? According to you, I, as a woman who calls herself a feminist, want to "bash, berate, hate, spit at, sneer, curse, and tear men down for being men"? You could not be more wrong. I have always been surrounded by strong, highly opinionated, conservative-minded men. For the most part, I've liked that. I am also the mother of two young men I adore. Let me assure you, that in many ways, I respect and LIKE men more than I do women, but you don't want to get me started on that, believe me. So, your lecture is entirely unnecessary and misdirected. Thanks, though.
Let's consider what a "feminist" really is. I, for example, am a well-educated woman who is a former stay-at-home mom. I left my career and happily took on that traditional role for years. I took primary care of the kids and house, had dinner ready for my husband every night when he got home from work, packed his lunches, and made darn sure he always had clean, pressed clothes to wear. I did the things I think a woman (or man) should be doing if she's at home full time. I also think it's a woman's duty (as it is a man's) to keep herself attractive for her significant other. And, yet...I call myself a feminist. OF COURSE I do. How about that?!
In comparison, I know lots of women who have always lived the so-called "feminist" dream (they're more "feminist" in their beliefs and life choices than someone like me). They take for granted the great sexual freedom feminism brought them, and don't you DARE tell them they perhaps shouldn't quite to the extent they do. They enjoy many more life options and opportunities, such as higher education and advanced degrees that women in previous generations could only imagine. It doesn't even occur to them to take their husband's name if they marry. They refuse to cook. They're not even slightly domestic. They control EVERYTHING in the home and their relationships. And, yet...they INSIST they're not one of those "feminists."
So...who's a "feminist," and who isn't? How about you? Can you explain in which ways, specifically, you're NOT a "feminist"? Since you don't call yourself a "feminist," are you a woman who believes in traditional values? Are you a woman who believes in traditional roles for women? In which ways ARE you a traditional woman? Seems to me, based on your posts in these threads, that you're highly opinionated. It's not that long ago, in days prior to feminism, that a woman publicly expressing strong opinions, especially on political issues (the "natural" domain of men), would have been considered highly unfeminine and unnatural. A veritable witch, in fact.
The truth is, most people today are feminists; they just don't call themselves "feminists." It's all semantics. In my books, YOU are absolutely a feminist.
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Feminism is not about equality because there would be respect. Feminists have no respect for males at all. They want to bash, berate, hate, spit at, sneer, curse, and tear men down for being men. If a female was so sure of herself, so comfortable with herself, wasn't filled with hateful envy, she wouldn't need to bash on males to try to gain an advantage. She would simply prove that she could do whatever it is that she wants, just as well as a man.
You don't "demand" respect, you earn it. You try to tell someone, "you respect me or else..." they aren't going to respect you. You don't have to demand it if you have a clue what you're doing. The only people who demand it are the people who don't have the skills necessary to be in a position that is respected.
If you're good at what you do, the respect will come naturally.
I reject your definition of feminism.
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