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Old 11-05-2016, 12:35 PM
 
Location: United States
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Why is it OK for Republicans who have security clearance and are sitting on the homeland security committee, are privy to Defence information, and deal with top secret classified information not held to the same standards? Well, they are. Even though Congress voted against them being held to the federal information act they still cannot pass along classified information. So the Republicans as well as the Democrats better stop using private email, private service, at Cetera for general work purposes. Do you disagree with that?
What are you talking about?

There is not a single piece of evidence that Chaffetz ever sent classified information with a private email.

You dems are becoming unhinged by the prospect of Hillary losing the election.
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Old 11-05-2016, 12:44 PM
 
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Anyone lower than Hillary gets prosecuted. Queen B, and Barak Hussain Obama get a free pass ever time.
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Old 11-05-2016, 12:45 PM
 
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What are you talking about?

There is not a single piece of evidence that Chaffetz ever sent classified information with a private email.

You dems are becoming unhinged by the prospect of Hillary losing the election.
We have no idea if he sent or received any classified information on his personal email. We have no idea if any of his emails will be upclassified. The fact is that he used a personal email for work purposes, which is frowned upon and which he was asked not to do - just as Hillary did, but he attacks her for the same behavior.

And Hillary never received or sent a properly marked classified email via her private server. Not one of the three emails in question had a large C at the top of the email as they were supposed to. Two of the emails were improperly marked with a "(c)" in the body of the text in a forward chain, that she obviously didn't read, and they were not supposed to have any markings because they weren't classified. Somebody who didn't know what they were doing made a mistake. The one email that had a "(c)" in the body, without the proper large C at the top of the email, was the lowest level of classified. That was simply a stupid error.

And the same with the chains that had content and no markings at all. It's not a stretch that something questionable is going to be found with Chaffetz emails. He shouldn't be using a personal email for work at all and congress should be held to the same standards as Hillary. It's criminal that he exempt himself from parts of the law.
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Old 11-05-2016, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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Wow, I bet the FBI never noticed he has a gmail account before. Good thing the Democratic Coalition Against Trump is on the case!
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Old 11-05-2016, 12:51 PM
 
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Anyone lower than Hillary gets prosecuted. Queen B, and Barak Hussain Obama get a free pass ever time.
Bull. Powell didn't get prosecuted for using a computer on a private dial up line in order to bypass the government server. Bush didn't get prosecuted for deleting 22 million emails during the war. Romney didn't get prosecuted for using a private server just like Hillary and then having the whole thing cleaned and turning nothing over. 2:1 nobody in congress with private email accounts used for work will get prosecuted. It's only Hillary as usual.
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Old 11-05-2016, 12:52 PM
 
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Wow, I bet the FBI never noticed he has a gmail account before. Good thing the Democratic Coalition Against Trump is on the case!
They new it during the hearings. Cummings brought it up at the top. But, it took pushing to get the FBI to investigate. Such double standards.
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Old 11-05-2016, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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They new it during the hearings. Cummings brought it up at the top. But, it took pushing to get the FBI to investigate. Such double standards.
What exactly is the FBI investigating?
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Old 11-05-2016, 01:04 PM
 
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What exactly is the FBI investigating?
They are now investigating Chaffetz's use of private email. He has high security clearance and uses a private email account (gmail) for work. To be clear- probing for classified or upclassified material.
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Old 11-05-2016, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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They are now investigating Chaffetz's use of private email.
What is your source for this?
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Old 11-05-2016, 01:10 PM
 
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See this is exactly what is wrong with regurgitating inaccurate information like the media does. Politicus is a hack website that has been called on the carpet before for its inaccurate "reporting." Politicus nor the OP know the difference between a private server and a private email account, yet they both perpetuate the lie that Chaffetz had a private server when he had a gmail account like many other Senators, Dem and Pub alike, that serve with integrity.

No where other than Politicus and this unfortunate thread is the lie that Chaffetz is being investigated by the FBI for his emails. It's the OP that needs to put on her thinking cap, not our listmates. Think about it OP: if Chaffetz really did violate the law, do you not think the MSM would be the first to point it out?

Before 2013, there was no way for the government to secure two email accounts on a Blackberry. So our government leaders were required to carry two devices. It is very likely leaders received sensitive email on their Blackberry devices, contrary to what you state below, since they were secure, unless they had two email accounts. It is very understandable that our government leaders would not want to carry two devices, and did not want the government IT department to control every bit of data on their phones. It is even understandable why a separate server would be desirable before 2013 to keep a bunch of personal emails out of FOIA productions. It would have been very difficult to manage at Clinton's level, as we have seen.

Clearly the OP does not understand the difficulty our government leaders have in determining what is or should be classified and what is not, or else you are intentionally manipulating a lie.

Comey testified that Clinton lied to the FBI, and that she and her staff were grossly negligent in the handling of classified information through her private server, and we now know that at least five foreign entities hacked into and obtained government information. Intent is not an element in the statutes that Clinton violated as envisioned by the authors of the statutes, but the FBI applied a rarely (and I mean "rarely") used intent, essentially "rewriting" the statutes to give Clinton a pass. Clinton got a pass, and you just need to admit it. There is no way you can sugar coat that with your little percentages.

Do I think a former first lady should be indicated for that? No, I do not, but I think she should be disqualified from running for president because she lacks judgment to be president. We will see.

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No, there are hundreds of thousands of Weiner's emails. You need to put on your thinking cap. Do you think TSC information was being sent to Hillary's blackberry? Does that really make sense to you that agents the world over, ambassadors, the president, were sending Hillary classified information to her blackberry? Of course not. The state department had a closed system for those electronic documents and the vast majority in Washington were hard copy. Abroad it was the same. That's why we have marines who are trained at the various embassies, annexes, and compounds to destroy TSC information.

The 1/1100th of 1% of regular work emails that contained 3 improperly marked classified emails and the 7 chains that had content were simply errors. They were not some big conspiracy theory. Do you think Gowdy is going to make the same charges against Chaffetz? Of course not. And no doubt there will be emails of his that will be upclassified.

Repubs spent 4.7 million of your money for nothing. they're corrupt. eta: babies. They are corrupt babies.

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