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Old 11-05-2016, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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If they can find that he USED his Gmail account to send or receive any classified documents then he should be charged. If it was just used to communicate with his constituents and other staff members then what law did he break? Was he storing classified documents on the Gmail server like Hillary was? Did he SEND classified material to people that did not have clearance like Hillary did?
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Old 11-05-2016, 03:05 PM
 
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If they can find that he USED his Gmail account to send or receive any classified documents then he should be charged. If it was just used to communicate with his constituents and other staff members then what law did he break? Was he storing classified documents on the Gmail server like Hillary was? Did he SEND classified material to people that did not have clearance like Hillary did?
Since when did she send classified material to someone who doesn't have clearance?
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Old 11-05-2016, 03:19 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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She used the closed system for classified emails.
If that were true, there would have been no classified emails on her private unsecured server to hand over. There were. Comey admitted it, and said she and her staff were extremely careless with classified info.

Hillary is NOT fit to serve as POTUS.
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Old 11-05-2016, 03:22 PM
 
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Since when did she send classified material to someone who doesn't have clearance?
18 U.S. Code § 793(f)

She broke it.

Comey admitted such as she was "extremely careless", but he claimed she did not "intend" such.

Section (f) does not require intent, merely "gross negligence" which is the same as "extremely careless".

Now run along, people tire of the defense of a known criminal.
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Old 11-05-2016, 03:25 PM
 
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If that were true, there would have been no classified emails on her private server to hand over. There were. Comey admitted it, and said she and her staff were extremely careless with classified info.

Hillary is NOT fit to serve as POTUS.
There was hardly anything on her servers. It was a mistake. She made a mistake. If she were actually using that sever for classified information as a rule it would have been inundated.

This is what Comey said about the mistake


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU3_hOPmX7Q


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VItwnSXJVOI

and what he says about Petraeus. She's always compared to him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6Ifq2VQWDA
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Old 11-05-2016, 03:27 PM
 
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The information I was providing to you was for informational purposes that people do in fact receive government emails on cell phones when you said they did not. Clinton had a secure blackberry until she lost the 2008 primary. She was thereafter denied a secure blackberry like she had before, but was offered another secure cell phone to use, which she declined because it wasn't a blackberry and she had to have a blackberry. Does that mean she still didn't receive her government email on that unsecure cell phone? No. That's one of the problems. She was receiving government email on an unsecured cell phone.

Gowdy asks Comey a series of questions about specific statements put forth by Clinton, asking "was that true." Comey answers, no, that was not true. The FBI found 81 email chains on Clinton's private server that contained classified information. There are some variances to that which ultimately lead to the finding that she had no intent to harm the US Government, but she had classified information on her private server.

Yes, 5 foreign intelligence agencies were able to hack into her private server and obtain government information.

BREAKING: FBI CONFIRMS Hillary Gave Classified Information to Foreign Countries! -

Why do you continue the misrepresentation that any Senator with a private email account is using it for government business? This is why you are so wrong. If that is the case, then every single Senator, both Democrat and Republican, who are serving with distinction and honor, should be reported for the "possiblity" they are using their private email wrongfully. The article you cite and the message you post said Chaffetz had a private "server" just because he had a personal email on his business card. This is irresponsible of Politicus, and you if you are the expert you claim to be on this issue.

Interestingly enough, Chaffetz is launching an investigation into ALL government officials use of personal email and FOIA request, something you in prior messages said should be done. Chaffetz is the target of a witch hunt of the worst kind, based on a lie, and you are perpetuating it with manipulated misinformation.

Comey testifies Clinton email claims

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The DCAT indeed reported him. Politco got it from their statement.
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No, Hillary requested a secure blackberry at the beginning of her tenure and was denied due to a lack of capability statement.


What lie? I know full well there is disagreement about what is or is not to be classified. That has been plainly stated. The reality is that using a private email for government business will open a person to the possibility of receiving classified information in that private email. Hence him being rightly reported.


That is a lie. Comey stated that he did not believe that Hillary lied to the FBI. It's illegal to lie to the FBI. She would have been prosecuted if he thought that.


From her server? Another lie.


Bull. Another person who did not watch the hearings.
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Old 11-05-2016, 03:27 PM
 
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18 U.S. Code § 793(f)

She broke it.

Comey admitted such as she was "extremely careless", but he claimed she did not "intend" such.

Section (f) does not require intent, merely "gross negligence" which is the same as "extremely careless".

Now run along, people tire of the defense of a known criminal.
They reviewed that over and over. Look at the videos I just linked. And who is this person she sent it to who didn't have clearance?
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Old 11-05-2016, 03:30 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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If they can find that he USED his Gmail account to send or receive any classified documents then he should be charged. If it was just used to communicate with his constituents and other staff members then what law did he break? Was he storing classified documents on the Gmail server like Hillary was [on her server]? Did he SEND classified material to people that did not have clearance like Hillary did?
Exactly.

Hillary is NOT fit to serve as POTUS. Vote for a person who's already under criminal investigation for botching their Cabinet Secretary position job? Uh... NO!
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Old 11-05-2016, 03:46 PM
 
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There was hardly anything on her servers. It was a mistake. She made a mistake.
Others are in prison for making that same mistake, on a much smaller scale. That's where Hillary should be: either in prison, convicted but pardoned, or fined, AND losing her security clearance for life.

Sailor Denied 'Clinton Deal', Gets 1 Year in Prison for 6 Photos of Sub | National News | US News

A Look at Federal Cases on Handling Classified Information | Politics | US News

Hillary is NOT fit to serve as POTUS.

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Old 11-05-2016, 03:52 PM
 
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The information I was providing to you was for informational purposes that people do in fact receive government emails on cell phones when you said they did not. Clinton had a secure blackberry until she lost the 2008 primary. She was thereafter denied a secure blackberry like she had before, but was offered another secure cell phone to use, which she declined because it wasn't a blackberry and she had to have a blackberry. Does that mean she still didn't receive her government email on that unsecure cell phone? No. That's one of the problems. She was receiving government email on an unsecured cell phone.
Since when?

"We began examining options for (Secretary Clinton) with respect to secure 'BlackBerry-like' communications," wrote Donald R. Reid, the department's assistant director for security infrastructure. "The current state of the art is not too user friendly, has no infrastructure at State, and is very expensive."
Reid wrote that each time they asked the NSA what solution they had worked up to provide a mobile device to Obama, "we were politely told to shut up and color.""

That's what I read that she was told and it was noted by her in the hearings.
Emails show NSA rejected Hillary Clinton's request for secure smartphone - CBS News

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Gowdy asks Comey a series of questions about specific statements put forth by Clinton, asking "was that true." Comey answers, no, that was not true. The FBI found 81 email chains on Clinton's private server that contained classified information. There are some variances to that which ultimately lead to the finding that she had no intent to harm the US Government, but she had classified information on her private server.

Yes, 5 foreign intelligence agencies were able to hack into her private server and obtain government information.

BREAKING: FBI CONFIRMS Hillary Gave Classified Information to Foreign Countries! -
I don't believe anything coming from inside sources via fox news let alone such a silly oped. And link to the hearings where 81 chains are reported. Gowdy is a witch hunter and bugged out because he din't get what he wanted. He's the king of spin.

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Why do you continue the misrepresentation that any Senator with a private email account is using it for government business? This is why you are so wrong. If that is the case, then every single Senator, both Democrat and Republican, who are serving with distinction and honor, should be reported for the "possiblity" they are using their private email wrongfully. The article you cite and the message you post said Chaffetz had a private "server" just because he had a personal email on his business card. This is irresponsible of Politicus, and you if you are the expert you claim to be on this issue.

Interestingly enough, Chaffetz is launching an investigation into ALL government officials use of personal email and FOIA request, something you in prior messages said should be done. Chaffetz is the target of a witch hunt of the worst kind, based on a lie, and you are perpetuating it with manipulated misinformation.

Comey testifies Clinton email claims
Why don't you watch the 4-6 hours of comey hearings before you form an opinion. Fox news sources through infowars.

And Chaffetz and all of congress should be held to the same standards. I'm calling Warren's office on Monday and reaching out to Cummings. This is bull that congress exempt themselves. That is going to come to an end. They should not be above the law.
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