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Originally Posted by Ferd
if you are a non-PROG you believe this.
If you are a PROG you have told people that such thinking is homophobic, trans-phobic racist, misogynist bigoted and will likely cause Roe to be overturned.
and you probably don't like tofu!
The problem is you can't have everyone choosing the same school, if they do, price of enrollment goes up, and those that aren't lucky enough to have rich parents get left out
The problem is you can't have everyone choosing the same school, if they do, price of enrollment goes up, and those that aren't lucky enough to have rich parents get left out
my grandfather wrote the first bill in his state to standardize teacher pay. was president of the Teachers Association in his state. 4 of his 5 children were college educated. (the one that isn't, is married to a psychologist). 2 of his children were educators. I have no less than 8 cousins that are educators.
Education is the main topic of conversation in my family. I am more than familiar with all the aspects of the subject. Let me just say that your view is just flat wrong. The problem is the education system has been broken. It is underserving everyone and especially those at greatest risk.
Progressives took over the education system and promptly broke it. So please don't make some insipid retread PROG argument to hold up your broken PROG system.
So, are you saying the districts in Dallas and Houston don't hav AP classes?
Digging deeper to get out of that snobby post of yours just makes it harder to climb out.
They may have AP classes, but "general population" schools in suburban areas around New York City destroy those in suburban areas in Texas as a whole. All statistics point to that. There are maybe 4 good high schools in all of suburban Houston, there are dozens in the NYC metro area.
The fracturing of this country's education system will continue with the GOP in control again. An attempt to privatize education has been going on in many states led by for profit corporations that also control much of the private prison lobby. Pat Toomey (R-PA) takes hundreds of thousands dollars from these companies and does their will.
Charter/Cyber schools have proven to provide bad results and hurts the funding of the actual schools. Who needs school though once the clean coal factories open amirite?
Charter schools are the best use of money. If Public schools cannot compete, then Public schools need to find a way to step up their game plan and stop catering to the lowest common denominator.
Private education has almost always performed above that of a public school, and charter schools as well. I would vote for vouchers for charter schools any day.
Kids who go to great public schools like Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor, etc, don't go to those kind of schools because they aren't needed....we have AP classes.
In first grade? You realize gifted kids (IQs of ~125+) are gifted even when very young, no? A 1st grader may be reading at the 6th grade level and/or be capable of doing math at the 6th grade level. What's available for them in the public schools before the AP classes kick in 10th grade?
And, yes, there are kids like that all over the U.S. Certain colleges like Northwestern, Duke, Stanford, etc., have academic Talent Searches in which 3rd graders take standardized tests meant for 8th graders, and 6th graders take the ACT or the SAT. And, yes, some kids ace those tests meant for kids 5 years older than they. What do the public schools have to offer them? Usually nothing but sitting there year after year after year, learning nothing. That educational abuse needs to STOP.
In first grade? You realize gifted kids (IQs of ~125+) are gifted even when very young, no? A 1st grader may be reading at the 6th grade level and/or be capable of doing math at the 6th grade level. What's available for them in the public schools before the AP classes kick in 10th grade?
And, yes, there are kids like that all over the U.S. Certain colleges like Northwestern, Duke, Stanford, etc., have academic Talent Searches in which 3rd graders take standardized tests meant for 8th graders, and 6th graders take the ACT or the SAT. And, yes, some kids ace those tests meant for kids 5 years older than they. What do the public schools have to offer them? Usually nothing but sitting there year after year after year, learning nothing. That educational abuse needs to STOP.
my grandfather wrote the first bill in his state to standardize teacher pay. was president of the Teachers Association in his state. 4 of his 5 children were college educated. (the one that isn't, is married to a psychologist). 2 of his children were educators. I have no less than 8 cousins that are educators.
Education is the main topic of conversation in my family. I am more than familiar with all the aspects of the subject. Let me just say that your view is just flat wrong. The problem is the education system has been broken. It is underserving everyone and especially those at greatest risk.
Progressives took over the education system and promptly broke it. So please don't make some insipid retread PROG argument to hold up your broken PROG system.
And when did progressives take over the education system?
80% of graduates of my local high school go to college...the top 5 are always ivy leaguers.
That in NO way addresses the problem I've raised. Try again:
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent
In first grade? You realize gifted kids (IQs of ~125+) are gifted even when very young, no? A 1st grader may be reading at the 6th grade level and/or be capable of doing math at the 6th grade level. What's available for them in the public schools before the AP classes kick in 10th grade?
And, yes, there are kids like that all over the U.S. Certain colleges like Northwestern, Duke, Stanford, etc., have academic Talent Searches in which 3rd graders take standardized tests meant for 8th graders, and 6th graders take the ACT or the SAT. And, yes, some kids ace those tests meant for kids 5 years older than they. What do the public schools have to offer them? Usually nothing but sitting there year after year after year, learning nothing. That educational abuse needs to STOP.
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