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Old 11-26-2016, 07:32 AM
 
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Not just coal.
Correct, what Hillary failed to realize is when she was speaking to coal miners there was a very large population of working class people in other industries seeing the same issues.
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Old 11-26-2016, 07:37 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Newsflash: Trump lost. By a couple million votes. He is president because of our goofy system not because he got the most people to back him.

Please go read up on why the EC exists.

Cal and NY aren't the country.
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Old 11-26-2016, 07:38 AM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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Is there a system you prefer?
Ponderosa is afraid that Hop Sing will be deported and take his Szechuan chicken recipe with him ...
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Old 11-26-2016, 07:39 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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California isn't even ran by Hollywood. We're ran by Sacramento..

The greatest state in the union should have a say that is proportionate to our population...
...the greatest state....PLEASE don't even go there and you do have a say. It's called the EC with 55 votes.
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Old 11-26-2016, 07:40 AM
 
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Newsflash: Trump lost. By a couple million votes. He is president because of our goofy system not because he got the most people to back him.
newsflash: Old skank lost by over 5 million votes with 3rd party+write-ins. More people voted against old skank than for.
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Old 11-26-2016, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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newsflash: Old skank lost by over 5 million votes with 3rd party+write-ins. More people voted against old skank than for.
That works both ways though, with the Republicans having an even greater margin of those who voted against them.
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Old 11-26-2016, 07:57 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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I'm actually going to stay on topic here and respond to the OP. Just because a job exists doesn't mean shouldn't be regulated or even that it should continue to exist. Jobs aren't everything. The dilemma is more complicated than that. Take coal mining, for example. Coal mining has caused untold amounts of misery, illness, and death to the miners. Inhaling coal dust causes silicosis, COPD, dust related diffuse fibrosis, Coal Workers’ Pneumoconiosis, and mixed dust pneumoconiosis, among other deadly respiratory diseases. Coal miners have lungs which are often in even worse shape than long term heavy smokers' lungs. Staying alive is more important than making money. And let's not forget about the risk of cave-ins and fires. So what were you saying about coal mining not needing regulation again, OP?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4556416/
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Old 11-26-2016, 09:07 AM
 
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I'm actually going to stay on topic here and respond to the OP. Just because a job exists doesn't mean shouldn't be regulated or even that it should continue to exist. Jobs aren't everything. The dilemma is more complicated than that. Take coal mining, for example. Coal mining has caused untold amounts of misery, illness, and death to the miners. Inhaling coal dust causes silicosis, COPD, dust related diffuse fibrosis, Coal Workers’ Pneumoconiosis, and mixed dust pneumoconiosis, among other deadly respiratory diseases. Coal miners have lungs which are often in even worse shape than long term heavy smokers' lungs. Staying alive is more important than making money. And let's not forget about the risk of cave-ins and fires. So what were you saying about coal mining not needing regulation again, OP?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4556416/
Trump will make black lung great again?
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Old 11-26-2016, 09:09 AM
 
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Trump is going to run things the way he wants to run them. And there isn't a thing you can do about it.
Maybe, maybe not.
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Old 11-26-2016, 09:29 AM
 
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I'm actually going to stay on topic here and respond to the OP. Just because a job exists doesn't mean shouldn't be regulated or even that it should continue to exist. Jobs aren't everything. The dilemma is more complicated than that. Take coal mining, for example. Coal mining has caused untold amounts of misery, illness, and death to the miners. Inhaling coal dust causes silicosis, COPD, dust related diffuse fibrosis, Coal Workers’ Pneumoconiosis, and mixed dust pneumoconiosis, among other deadly respiratory diseases. Coal miners have lungs which are often in even worse shape than long term heavy smokers' lungs. Staying alive is more important than making money. And let's not forget about the risk of cave-ins and fires. So what were you saying about coal mining not needing regulation again, OP?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4556416/
Black lung risks can be mitigated if not eliminated, just so it's clear there is many occupations that have health risks involved and some of those is where dust is present. Dry wallers for example. It's not something particular to the coal mining industry. At the end of the day it should be left up to employee.

As far as mining accidents go most are related to the operation of heavy equipment which applies to any industry where heavy equipment is in operation. Other than that you are more likely to be killed clerking a convenience store than being involved in other accidents such as the catastrophic ones where many are killed. I'll take my chances with the $80K job over the much more deadly $7.50 one any day.
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