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Old 01-30-2017, 09:41 AM
 
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There are more than 40,000 Christian branches/ denominations/ sects in the US and multiples of that in the world. Some of them believe their way is the only right way and they are superior to all others. And some trend extreme.

Reasonable people seem to grasp the actions of Westboro Church or the Christian Idenity Movement or the Ugandian Christian Movement are not representative of all Christians.

Yet, some prefer to use a broad brush to paint all 2 + billion Muslims.[/quote]


Nope , just the 10% or 200 million radical ones.





How many Muslim extremists are there? Just the facts, please. - CSMonitor.com

Size of the US military for perspective:
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Old 01-30-2017, 09:41 AM
 
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There are more than 40,000 Christian branches/ denominations/ sects in the US and multiples of that in the world. Some of them believe their way is the only right way and they are superior to all others. And some trend extreme.
I see you decided to ignore the point. Identifying exceptions does over turn the argument about significant differences in proportionality. I can drive without a seat belt. The question is why? Christianias don't seem to be causing civil unrest all out of proportion to their numbers.

Many Islamic countries would not let me in. Where do I do once they decide to have a caliphate? I loath your Islamic religion with the same passion I hate Marxism. I do not want to import them either. Both ideologies declare world domination and insist on my enslavement or destruction. We have a few terror incidents at abortion clinics out of a population of 100s of millions. I would like perfect citizens , but its not a perfect world. Its a dangerous world where one is to mitigate risk for weighed against the perspective benefits of taking risks. Islam is more risk with no benefits. Its dangerous on many levels. Even if violence and internecine war due to the inherent intolerance of monotheism is avoided. The best I can hope for is superstitious brain washing.


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Reasonable people seem to grasp the actions of Westboro Church or the Christian Idenity Movement or the Ugandian Christian Movement are not representative of all Christians.

I can easily dispatch Christian militancy with their own scripture. Its easy. Judiazied forms are the only ones with any concern since some dig into the old barbarism, however not at the level of the Quran and the Hadiths . Its disgusting and perverse. You mention some of our civil code had childhood marriage. However those laws were understood to be man made. How can the holy writ of raping 9 year old be overturned? God said it so its unalterable forever.That is the problem with superstitious lunacy.


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Yet, some prefer to use a broad brush to paint all 2 + billion Muslims.
Because I read the holy writ of your cult. Islam is unquestionably linked with civil authority. Christianity is easily demonstrated to be not(render on to Caesar's what is Caesar's). . Europe does not even support a death penalty. The Quran clearly does. What are your people doing there? Why can't someone open a school of philosophy, a church or a synagogue in Saudi? Its because its a supremacist cult. You are all far too dangerous in any numbers. Moreover if not actively, the doctrine believe as holy writ

We already have two Abarahmic religions here. They are proven to mix poorly with Islam sooner or later, be it a century or next week. It will eventually attempt to dominate as it always does.
 
Old 01-30-2017, 09:41 AM
 
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What happened to the wave of liberal propaganda army posters who flocked here yesterday on orders from the liberal fascist leaders following the announcement about the temporary immigration/travel ban from certain countries? Not a single post from them here today to defend their position.

The possibility that there are valid reasons for restricting access into the United States does not even occur to them. It is more important for them to feel like they are popular and liked by Muslims and other countries, which probably is not going to be the case. Germany has learned this the hard way.
It's not about logic and reason. It's about how they feel.
 
Old 01-30-2017, 09:54 AM
 
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lol. An adherent to Islam is called a "Muslim", not "Islam".

Trudeau and the mayor of the city have called this a terrorist attack on the Muslim community and said we stand by Muslims in Quebec against terror. Those words would probably not have been spoken had this been Muslims carrying out the action.

And all the while 6 people are dead and you folks can do nothing but deflect and "hope* that it was Muslims killing Muslims? How sick is this place?
I think we must all agree that the attack on Center culturel Islamique de Québec was a "Terrorist Attack" -
Is it your belief that Muslims never attack/murder other Muslims? That is simply not the case.
Muslim DO kill other Muslims -- what do you think these Mid-East/Africa wars are all about? What do you think ISIS preaches and is trying to do? Iranian Shia are battling Sunni is many Countries - including Syria. ISIS is attempting to establish a new Caliphate, in which all must adhere to their form of Salifism.

Takfiri
A takfiri (Arabic: تكفيري‎‎ takfīrī) is a Muslim who accuses another Muslim (or an adherent of another Abrahamic faith) of apostasy. The accusation itself is called takfir, derived from the word kafir (unbeliever), and is described as when "one who is, or claims to be, a Muslim is declared impure." Accusing other Muslims of being takfiris has become a sectarian slur, particularly since the outbreak of the Syrian Civil War in 2011

However, a growing number of splinter Wahhabist/Salafist groups, classified by some scholars as Salafi-Takfiris, have split from the orthodox method of establishing takfir through the processes of the Sharia. They have reserved to themselves the right to declare any Muslim an apostate, as well as any non-Muslim. Takfiris have been classified by some commentators as violent offshoots of the Salafi movement, yet while Salafism is seen as a form of 'fundamentalist Islam', it is not an inherently violent movement that condones terrorism. Takfiris, on the other hand, condone acts of violence as legitimate methods of achieving religious or political goals.


We just don't know enough yet and it's even more difficult to get information because the Official Language in Quebec is French. We do know that one of the Killers speaks Arabic, we do know that they were students. I can't confirm (but suspect) that this Mosque is sponsored by Morocco because several of the people who attended the services refer to Morocco. French Canada is a reasonable place for Immigration from Morocco, because Moroccans also speck French. Morocco is 99% Muslim & mostly Sunni - BUT 35% of the Muslims in Morocco are "unaffiliated". There is certainly a possibility of complaints and accusations of Apostacy..

The main focus on the Corporate Media around the world appears to be a Pig's Head that was left on the doorstep of this Mosque last year -- this is tied to President Donald Trump for some odd reason. It is certainly true that there has been some Islamaphobia in Quebec City (which is 90% Catholic) over the years, but they already have 2 of the Killers in custody and they are NOT "white supremacists", Donald Trump's Army of Islamiphobes or even French Canadian Catholics. The are Muslims killing Muslims all over the world and that has been the case for Centuries. Rather than stories of "Trump's a fault" and Pig Heads from a year ago -- perhaps they could concentrate more about learning who the Killers in custody are and WHY they choose to do this.

Just a thought .... perhaps we could pause the Total Hysterical Meltdown long enough to look at what we "know", instead of what they want it to be.
 
Old 01-30-2017, 10:05 AM
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None of the talking heads are discussing Quebec this morning so there must be nothing to bash Trump with.
Story was not on MSN homepage or yahoo homepage. Says it all.
 
Old 01-30-2017, 10:12 AM
 
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We just don't know enough yet and it's even more difficult to get information because the Official Language in Quebec is French.e.



CBC News is probably the best place to get information on this situation in English.


Plus you also have me to relay information on here when it comes out in French first.
 
Old 01-30-2017, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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We do know that one of the Killers speaks Arabic,.

It's a safe assumption based on his name and origins, but this hasn't been confirmed for sure.
 
Old 01-30-2017, 10:16 AM
 
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It is certainly true that there has been some Islamaphobia in Quebec City (which is 90% Catholic) over the years,.

Officially that may be true in the statistics, but the vast majority of people are non-practising lapsed Catholics. It's a cultural thing as opposed to a religious thing at this point.
 
Old 01-30-2017, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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2 of the Killers in custody and they are NOT "white supremacists", Donald Trump's Army of Islamiphobes or even French Canadian Catholics.

We actually have no idea for the first two points, but one of the suspects is named Alexandre Bissonnette, which is most definitely a French Canadian name going back to the original settlers of New France in the 1600s. His family roots are most certainly Catholic too, although many people like this have lapsed in recent generations here.
 
Old 01-30-2017, 10:20 AM
 
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Story was not on MSN homepage or yahoo homepage. Says it all.
It's on the CNN home page, top right hand side, right under the words "Top stories"
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