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Are you not watching the news... The Rise in Right Winger Attacks on People is very very high, since Trump and his Belligerence set that tone. I'm sure Fox and Right Wing media does not carry that news.
Yeah....how about no. Its not even remotely a good thing. This sort of spin makes me pretty certain the story is true, and pretty sure that more and more is going to come out.
Who wants to lay odds on another bombshell report before the end of day Tuesday?
Have they said it didn't happen?
Usually these stories start out with how it never happened.
Then we move on to if it happened, it's not illegal.
Then we wander around how its a good thing before we finally get to can't recall.
Trump sounds desperate as sin in his tweets. The man comes across like a fish flapping on the deck of a fishing boat. He is really speaking to those that have drank his Kool-aid or want to hold their offices at the expense of the good of the country.
Kushner is not an elected official and can back channel with the Russians all he wants but he should not get security clearance! That would be common sense.
Kushner is not an elected official and can back channel with the Russians all he wants but he should not get security clearance! That would be common sense.
Kushner asked the Russians if he could make the calls FROM the Russian Embassy. That's not a back channel...that's treasonous. The Russian ambassador was evidently so taken aback by the offer that he had to ask Moscow what the next move should be.
It is very much related, because Trump wants to void out, Regulations, not only on the environment but on banking. If you'd read the piece about his void out the necessity to report where minerals originate, then you will understand. Review what is "conflict diamonds" to give you and example.
Also, grasp what is Natural Resources, and how countries could sell for example "oil" on the black market if there is no regulatory governance over designating where it originated from.
Thinking is wonderful when it relates to pay attention. Kushner, family has already tried to use the Office to drum up investors, by seeking to abuse the EB_5 Visa Program, and Trump singed a document, just before their sales pitch went forth in China. "Reading is a wonderful thing" when one acknowledges what they read.
Russian Money is deeply embedded in this mess, and Kushner followed up his meeting with a Russian Banker, who is tied to Putin, within the cycle of trying to get a back door secrecy program.
The post, you mention is not only relative it is critical.. but it equally so can stand on its own to become a distinct thread... But, to say it is not relevant, is simply not true.
Read Tinawina's post and my post that you are replying to above....I know it's hard, as you just want to read your own thoughts. I didn't write anything either way about validity or lack of validity about your thoughts about Trump. If you think that my using the word rant addresses the validity or lack of validity of your content, then you need to look up the definition of the word rant (hint: It doesn't). I wrote that your rant about Trump...which was a reply to Tinawina....didn't include anything relative to/about the particular subject matter in Tinawina's post, or for that matter really any attempt to relate to Tinawina's post at all. But of course you didn't see that, because all you were looking at/concerned with was how your post related to Trump's behavior, not the poster (Tinawina) or post you were 'replying' to.
Trump probably is a narcissist, but you really should look in a mirror. Pot meet kettle.
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He probably felt he could kick everyone out of that room and have a little one on one with Comey and there would be no harm.
Interesting. When I first heard about that meeting, I thought the exact same thing. Irrespective of the 'lack of knowledge about the workings of government' angle, IMO, that shows that Trump doesn't have a clue about Comey's makeup/what makes Comey tick.
I am sure that Trump himself is not treasonous. I think some of his appointees are skating very close to the line though.
I lean towards this read of things.
I think Russia wanted to influnce Trump (not unusual, nations try to meddle to protect their own interests), looked for someone on the inside to help them out, and maybe found a couple of folks willing to start conversations.
I do think they did get someone to talk Trump into dealing with Russia differently, and to persuade him to look at at NATO differently, something Russia has been trying to get to happen since forever.
Trump may not even know that happened, or even realize it was a big deal, to him he's just skirting around "silly rules" to cut deals.
But of course, it's possible lines were crossed and laws were broken.
It's worrying, but not as scary to me as the weakening of alliances formed by NATO that have been keeping Russia (and a bunch of other folks) in check. Merkel's speech today truly terrified me. I've said it before, but I don't the the US is ready for what happens when the rest of the world starts moving on without us. We are way too arrogant, we've been on top so long we don't think we can lose out place on the power line. These folks are going to be enraged when they figure it out.
Read Tinawina's post and my post that you are replying to above....I know it's hard, as you just want to read your own thoughts. I didn't write anything either way about validity or lack of validity about your thoughts about Trump. If you think that my using the word rant addresses the validity or lack of validity of your content, then you need to look up the definition of the word rant (hint: It doesn't). I wrote that your rant about Trump...which was a reply to Tinawina....didn't include anything relative to/about the particular subject matter in Tinawina's post, or for that matter really any attempt to relate to Tinawina's post at all. But of course you didn't see that, because all you were looking at/concerned with was how your post related to Trump's behavior, not the poster (Tinawina) or post you were 'replying' to.
Trump probably is a narcissist, but you really should look in a mirror. Pot meet kettle.
I read her post, she started out speaking of how Trump is not that complicated. To that I said, he should go back and look at the 1980's, De-Regulations and the End Results of what it devastated in a broad ranges of business and industry.
she spoke of his ignoring protocol's and doing what he wants. I further expounded on the results of ignoraing regulations and again referenced the mess de-regulation presented as in being: "that is the driving reason why the 1980's regulatory situations was a mess, and follow that up with the regulatory roll backs Trump is promoting. the results will become nothing more than a repeat of the 1980's. If you understood what she said, 'she said he
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He's always treated established laws as something to work around, and he's never observed the traditions of the world he was raised in.
My response to your comment, was as it stated, "relevant" because it re-asserts the point I made about disbanding regulations and / or "working around" regulations is not good for the American system, its economy nor its people".
Then I addressed examples of regulations he has tried to change with executive orders.
Now, I don't know what you expected as to a response to her comment from me. I do think, you just as well could have made comment to what she wrote and express your views as to what you gleaned from what she wrote. I did not state any disagreement to what she wrote.
As to your comment to me. I give you commentary as to how I see what I wrote as being relevant. as to any reference to what I write in labels as "rants". I don't let that affect me as to what other people call what I write. If you look back over my post, that will be very evident.
You choose not to accept it as it does not fit what you seek, thus you want to make accusations against me. I find that rather odd. In an interactive forum, there will be many perspectives about what is posted. One can't meet others expectations nor be diminished by the labels others seek to assert. I just write what I want. That is not likely to make much of a change, other than I work to get better at what ever it is I do as an ongoing process.
I see nothing that would prevent you from easily just writing out your commentary reply to what she wrote, since you gleaned another aspects from it.
As to what I ignore or don't, If I had wanted to "ignore your comment", I could have ignored your comment to me, but I gave you the regard of a reply comment with aims of clarity of perspective of my commentary, and you disagree, which is your right, but you still have not made your reply commentary to her post? So, what is it that you are actually seeking?
I fully get many of the comments by various people, who speak of Trumps inexperience in government. I however feel, that he should have learned more, considering the inordinate amount of time he spent condemning Obama and the his comments even so of Bush,... One should not be so vocal and adamant when they have no true understanding of the governance system and the internal laws that manage and regulate how things are done and what can and cannot be done within our governance systems and knowing what are the processes. As well too, looking back at historical moves and what has resulted. It is very valid to say, look at the 1980's and the 1990's as well, because the systemic issues had carry over effect. Therefore, to speak of his disregard for regulatory systems, management and process, of which she alluded to, is very much relevant to her commentary. This is not private business with a single owner, this is the United States Government, far bigger than any man.
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The Rise in Right Winger Attacks on People is very very high, since Trump and his Belligerence set that tone. I'm sure Fox and Right Wing media does not carry that news. 
