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My "preamble" as you called it were used as qualifiers to show how much I thought your OP was right and spot on.
My saying I don't normally agree with your posts indicated just how much I thought your OP was spot on. My saying I didn't care for Obama was again, a way to indicate how, even though I don't like him just how I'm trying to be unbiased and fair minded I'm being about the mistreatment of him by this accusation. Fair minded people should agree here. There's so far no evidence so don't disrespect the man, the former president with this sorta thing.
Do you see how this works???
Then you come back at me with some grade school level bickering comment when I'm agreeing with you and telling you that basically you're spot on. Man, you must be a real treat at cocktail parties.
Just say that you agree and maybe elaborate on the point.
Trump does NOT have to provide proof. John McCain is full of schiddt, again. This is a common condition for John, the epitomy of "all talk, no action". Arizona deserves better.
Trump has reacted to numerous MSM reports indicating the Obama Administration spied on his campaign, and asked Congress to investigate this.
It's up to Congress now. Either the MSM lied about spying, or Obama Administration factions DID spy ... it's one or the other, or a mixture of both. Both seems likely to me. BTW, when government at any level twists courts to obtain search warrants to investigate rivals it's NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT, it is SPYING.
Hopefully the Congressional inquiry will expose some leakers, who can be fired, prosecuted, and jailed. LEAKERS ARE A CRITICAL PROBLEM AND OBSTRUCTION TO MAGA.
Did the Obama Administration manipulate the FISA court to spy on a political rival or not? It is a FACT they used the court in the recent past to spy on journalists they didn't like. If spying DID NOT OCCUR, then the MSM is guilty of spreading more damn lies about Trump
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I think this one is different because it is such a serious charge.
The guy in the WH accused the last POTUS of 'wiretapping' him and called him "sick and bad," based on some nutjob radio hosts.
He basically accused him of a felony. Trump opened a can of worms he probably will regret. Obama had no power to order a wiretap. Trump probably thought there would be a quiet private investigation into this and if there was nothing there--people would have forgotten about it in a few months. But this will be public and loud. Trump is not going to like it.
If there are in fact FISA warrants (a term that the alt-right tosses around so casually that there have been posts on the board about "Fiser warrants"), information may come to light that Trump would prefer not. Evidence could lead to the subpoena of his tax returns if there are financial entanglements with other countries.
Trump had probably never heard of a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant when he made those tweets.
In addition, how strange is it that Trump tweeted these accusations out after it being raged about on alt-right media, and then went on to tweet about a celebrity's tv ratings. If a president read classified information that the former president had "wiretapped" him, wouldn't he immediately be on the phone with the DOJ attempting to get more information, rather than tweeting out stupid accusations to the entire world?
If it turns out that Trump tweeted a lie in anger due to alt right media (as it is looking), then he will most definitely owe Obama an apology, and there will be many Americans demanding it.
If he did not apologize and admit he was in error, he would not only look like an idiot, but nobody will ever believe anything he has to say. Though there are many who already do not believe him, there will be many many more.
Read the FISA statutes. The president does have the authority to order wiretaps. Tho the president can't order or get a FISA warrant, instead the president can bypass the FISA court and order it through the AG.
Listen carefully to those who are in Obama's pockets, they carefully choose their words when talking about it. For example, saying that Obama didn't do it because he can't legally get a FISA warrant. They are right about that, but, they are willfully misleading people since Obama could have ordered a wiretap without going through the FISA court.
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Originally Posted by odanny
I would hope President Obama would seek legal counsel and perhaps file a defamation lawsuit (you know Trump would if the tables were turned) but I doubt Pres. Obama would waste his time and energy on someone so laughably ignorant as Trump.
Mmm, yeah, that's why Obama had started the 'Resist Trump' movement, to overthrow Trump. He and Hillary have recently been robocalling people begging for donations for that movement.
silly silly silly. POTUS is under oath every second....posters here are not.
What the??? When did that happen? I don't recall words anything like that said when Trump recited his Oath of Office. Did Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon or any President before them swear that they were under oath at all times because they were POTUS?
"One of the most interesting disclosures concerns how the CIA can cover its tracks by leaving electronic trails suggesting the hacking is being done in different places — notably, in Russia. In fact, according to WikiLeaks, there’s an entire department dedicated to this. Its job is to “misdirect attribution” by leaving false fingerprints."
If It's Proven His Tweets Were Lies...What's The Proper Punishment? ....
Let's show him who boss around here. Let's unfollow him! We'll just turn off those nasty ol' Tweets and never read them again..
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