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Old 03-14-2017, 11:50 AM
 
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How were you "forced onto" Medicare?
Almost everyone goes into Medicare at age 65. And almost all have their premiums deducted from their SS.

 
Old 03-14-2017, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Single payer via Medicare expansion is the way to go, to catch up to the rest of the world.

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A little less Arby's and fewer chicken fried steaks would help too.
 
Old 03-14-2017, 05:43 PM
 
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That will result in only the affluent that are healthy having coverage. Sick people will be priced out of the market as will low income people. The old system was failing. Obamacare didn't solve the problem. The current Republican solutions will make things even worse. Medicare for all is the only viable solution currently out there. And for the record I voted for Trump.

The current proposal will cost the Republicans dearly come 2018.
Thank you
Just like free market TV's, cell phones and computers that only "the affluent" have. Why can't everyone see this?
 
Old 03-14-2017, 06:25 PM
 
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Thank you
Just like free market TV's, cell phones and computers that only "the affluent" have. Why can't everyone see this?
New technologies have not been kind to our overall HC costs like your list. New medical technologies by and large have been only more expensive. Like moving from x-rays to MRI's. More sophisticated pacemakers. Better prosthetic joints. New technologies bring on new drugs that are very costly to create and deliver to the public.

Some optional procedures have become cheaper like Lasik eye repair and lens implant. But these are also mostly office based procedures, quick now, and with very low risks. Easier and elective surgeries like simple hernias, colonoscopies can be cheaper in the outpatient setting.

But technologies so far have had a hard time making a face to face office visit or surgery cheaper. Or at least on a grand enough scale to make an overall dent.

Telemedicine can be cheaper than a face to face visit, but it lacks proper professional contact and physical exam.

Some labs are certainly cheaper and easier due to technologies.
 
Old 03-14-2017, 07:01 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Almost everyone goes into Medicare at age 65. And almost all have their premiums deducted from their SS.
No they don't. But if you don't you get a penalty of 10% every year.
 
Old 03-14-2017, 07:22 PM
 
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No they don't. But if you don't you get a penalty of 10% every year.
I'm 66 and a doc. Hardly a sole I know personally and professionally 65 and over is not in Medicare. I might not even take care of anyone over 65 without Medicare. At least I can't think of one.
 
Old 03-14-2017, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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I'm 66 and a doc. Hardly a sole I know
Are you a podiatrist?
 
Old 03-14-2017, 07:50 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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I'm 66 and a doc. Hardly a sole I know personally and professionally 65 and over is not in Medicare. I might not even take care of anyone over 65 without Medicare. At least I can't think of one.
I know you like to impress people with your credential and such but my husband almost didn't take his. Medicare part A yes, but not Medicare part B. Just to set the record straight. He didn't have to get part A either but it's free and that's why he signed up.
 
Old 03-14-2017, 07:51 PM
 
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Are you a podiatrist?
Haha. Good one.
 
Old 03-15-2017, 04:25 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Almost everyone goes into Medicare at age 65. And almost all have their premiums deducted from their SS.


Because "almost everyone" chooses to go on Medicare, and because you have to pay a 10% penalty if you DON'T go on Medicare, doesn't mean you are FORCED to go on Medicare.


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