Video: Trump supporters and opponents brawl on Orange County beach, why? (death, ideologies)

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by StanleysOwl

No. These hundred or so examples: https://www.splcenter.org/20100126/terror-right
Certainly the source will irk you. No doubt the fact that every incident was well,documented by every possible media and government source and agency will be meaningless in your fictional view of the world. But for other readers it makes relevant reading.

If you add all those people up, it's like 20 people total over a 20 year period in a country of over 300,000,000 citizens.

Like I said, you're literally making up pretend bogeymen to hate. It's sad.

[Ghengis]

Originally Posted by bmw335xi

ROFL

A paralegal is basically a lawyer's assistant.

but, scoring in the top 75% is quite an accomplishment

[StanleysOwl]

Originally Posted by CaliRestoration

If you add all those people up, it's like 20 people total over a 20 year period in a country of over 300,000,000 citizens.

Like I said, you're literally making up pretend bogeymen to hate. It's sad.

If you add those people up they number in the hundreds arrested for those events listed. But that doesnt hardly scratch the surface of the numbers involved in right wing hate groups which number in the range of 300 being tracked nationally with thousands of members.

In contrast, right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities, according to a study by Arie Perliger, a professor at the United States Military Academy’s Combating Terrorism Center. The toll has increased since the study was released in 2012.

there has never been a comparable movement size or effect from the left.

Numbers for the KKK alone:

there are 190 active KKK groups with between 5,000 and 8,000 Klan members in the U.S.

A survey of over 300 law enforcement agencies nationally showed that right wing extremism was the number one threat of concern for law enforcement agencies across the country - vastly exceeeding concern over Islamic terrorism domestically.

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by StanleysOwl

If you add those people up they number in the hundreds arrested for those events listed. But that doesnt hardly scratch the surface of the numbers involved in right wing hate groups which number in the range of 300 being tracked nationally with thousands of members.
there has never been a comparable movement size or effect from the left.

Numbers for the KKK alone:


A survey of over 300 law enforcement agencies nationally showed that right wing extremism was the number one threat of concern for law enforcement agencies across the country - vastly exceeeding concern over Islamic terrorism domestically.

254 fatalities since 2001

So you're right wing bogeymen have killed all of 254 people in 16 years in a country of 300,000,000 people?

That's like one good memorial day weekend in Chicago.

[StanleysOwl]

Originally Posted by CaliRestoration

254 fatalities since 2001

So you're right wing bogeymen have killed all of 254 people in 16 years in a country of 300,000,000 people?

That's like one good memorial day weekend in Chicago.

Aside from the 168 killed in Oklahoma bombing yes. And not including not fatal violent attacks. How many have been killed by the "leftists" being villified in this thread?

If you think the right wing extremist dangers are silly why not express that to the 300 some law enforcement departments nationally that consider them the number 1 ideological threat?

[expatCA]

What is missing in this thread is anyone condemning both sides of the issue.

The radical Left and the radical Right. Each just bashes the other and ignore the bad that their own side does NOT condemn. Lately the Left does seem to condone it more however, as we have seen in the violent protests initiated by ... the Radical Left and excused by the majority of the Left.

[StanleysOwl]

Originally Posted by expatCA

What is missing in this thread is anyone condemning both sides of the issue.

The radical Left and the radical Right. Each just bashes the other and ignore the bad that their own side does NOT condemn. Lately the Left does seem to condone it more however, as we have seen in the violent protests initiated by ... the Radical Left and excused by the majority of the Left.

There's been lots of condemnation of both sides of extremism in this thread. Don't know how you missed it.

That said, the accusations you make of the left violence equaling or exceeding the right is without any validation whatsoever. As usual. Name right hate groups. Like the KKK. Then name equivalent left hate groups. Identify the violence and hate acts associated with each. Let's see what you come up with.

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by StanleysOwl

If you think the right wing extremist dangers are silly why not express that to the 300 some law enforcement departments nationally that consider them the number 1 ideological threat?

I don't think even a SINGLE person dying due to extremism is "silly". That's someone's life, that was unjustly taken.

However what I do find extremely silly is that I've challenged you to prove that there is a wide ranging right wing nazi/KKK movement out there where 63 million of these racist somehow voted a guy into the presidency, and the BEST you could come up with is a few extremist who have killed LESS people than black gangs are responsible for in Chicago during your average Summer Weekend.

You've proven that there isn't some wide ranging right wing nazi movement by your own attempt to prove that it does exist. You've tried to make up a bogeyman, and have failed miserably.

How many have been killed by the "leftists" being villified in this thread?

Uh, NO ONE was killed in the video that this thread was originally started for. The video showed ANTIFA jack asses who tried to start violence at a Pro-Trump rally but then got laid out by real Americans who weren't taking their **** anymore. We aren't talking about these leftist extremist because they got their asses kicked, and you tried to change the thread subject to be about "ring wing nazi squads roaming american streets" and exposed just how clueless you are about the United States and politics in general. You're City-Data's version of Van Jones.

[StanleysOwl]

Originally Posted by CaliRestoration

I don't think even a SINGLE person dying due to extremism is "silly". That's someone's life, that was unjustly taken.

However what I do find extremely silly is that I've challenged you to prove that there is a wide ranging right wing nazi/KKK movement out there where 63 million of these racist somehow voted a guy into the presidency, and the BEST you could come up with is a few extremist who have killed LESS people than black gangs are responsible for in Chicago during your average Summer Weekend.

You've proven that there isn't some wide ranging right wing nazi movement by your own attempt to prove that it does exist. You've tried to make up a bogeyman, and have failed miserably.

No. What you've just done is create an entirely new topic that wasn't being discussed. No one has brought up anything about there being "a wide ranging right wing nazi/KKK movement out there where 63 million of these racist somehow voted a guy into the presidency." but no surprise. This is what you do when your diatribes are proven worthless. What's being discussed is whether the left is the dominant violent ideology. What's being shown is there is far less violent left than right. But most importantly whats been pointed out is that in either ideological direction the numbers of people who act n extreme are so few relative to the total numbers of adherents that it is disingenuous to lable right or left "violent."

The fact remains that there are lots of right wing extremist organizations and members. So far no one has listed any comparable left wing groups that plot and execute anti government violence.

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by StanleysOwl

But most importantly whats been pointed out is that in either ideological direction the numbers of people who act n extreme are so few relative to the total numbers of adherents that it is disingenuous to lable right or left "violent."

You're welcome.

I gave that one to you for free because I have a lot of free time today.

If you want another lesson, I'll prove to you why rape stats on college campuses are also complete BS.