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[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by StanleysOwl

That is why all survey of law enforcement cite the radical right as their number 1 ideologically based concerns, not the left.

That's untrue. Not ALL law enforcement think radical right wingers are the #1 threat. You're citing a limited leftist sponsored survey that had less than 1,000 respondents where the choices were very loaded (radical islam was not a choice in the survey). There are 1.1 million sworn officers of the law in the United States.

See? You could have just said "a specific law enforcement survey cited right wing extremism as the #1 threat", but when you said "all law enforcement", you sunk your own point with dishonesty and lies.

You're using the same dishonest tactic that produced this:



Sample size and sample mix MATTER.

Sad.

[StanleysOwl]

Originally Posted by CaliRestoration

That's untrue. Not ALL law enforcement think radical right wingers are the #1 threat. You're citing a limited leftist sponsored survey that had less than 1,000 respondents where the choices were very loaded (radical islam was not a choice in the survey). There are 1.1 million sworn officers of the law in the United States.

See? You could have just said "a specific law enforcement survey cited right wing extremism as the #1 threat", but when you said "all law enforcement", you sunk your own point with dishonesty and lies.

You're using the same dishonest tactic that produced this:



Sample size and sample mix MATTER.

Sad.

Yes, Donald. But no, Donald. There is a considerable body of research and studies from the FBI to local agencies and by investigative journalists and other institutional parties that all concur with the dangers of domestic right extremism exceeding all other ideologies including radical Islam and leftists. It is readily accessible to anyone who cares to look. Which you dont.

As for your repeated references to failed presidential race polling it has been noted again and again that you not knowing the difference between election polling that changes from week to week over time - and other non-election-based statistical research is pretty revealing of your level of intellect.

Sad.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by StanleysOwl

"6 months" is a totally meaningless metric and generalization to this issue. In any case, as demonstrated repeatedly, random small scale acts attributed to the "left" in protesting Trump have been sometimes wrongly attributed when the anarchists have been the actors.

Meanwhile the various hundreds of extremist right hate organizations and tens of thousands of their adherents continue to meet, plan, practice, and train for violent confrontation and government overthrow.

Which is the more serious threat in your view? Protest or preparation for violent overthrow?

This thread was discussing the immediate problems and while "some" may be anarchists their actions have many times been ignored by the Left. The thread is dealing with the violent attacks by the ... Left not simply anarchists as they would have also attacked Hillary's supporters if they truly were anarchists.

The Left has stopped being non violent, if it ever was.

Please give an example of the Right violently protesting anything the Left and it's candidates are doing, in the last 6 months?

I condemn them both, not say one is worse than the other. They both are bad so I am sure you do condemn the Leftists who attack trump supporters? This has been the major issue in this thread and the last 6 months or so.

Do you condemn the Lefties who have attacked Trump supporters?

[StanleysOwl]

Originally Posted by expatCA

This thread was discussing the immediate problems and while "some" may be anarchists their actions have many times been ignored by the Left. The thread is dealing with the violent attacks by the ... Left not simply anarchists as they would have also attacked Hillary's supporters if they truly were anarchists.

The Left has stopped being non violent, if it ever was.

Please give an example of the Right violently protesting anything the Left and it's candidates are doing, in the last 6 months?

I condemn them both, not say one is worse than the other. They both are bad so I am sure you do condemn the Leftists who attack trump supporters? This has been the major issue in this thread and the last 6 months or so.

Do you condemn the Lefties who have attacked Trump supporters?

Apparently you havent read the posts in this thread. Just a couple here and there. Everything you are asking has been addressed multiple times. In summary law enforcement surveyed nationally agrees that their greatest ideological threat - presently - including now - which includes the past six months - are right wing extremists. Whether they have been visible in street protests lately or not does not equate to liberals being more violent as is being argued in this thread.

Why would anarchists attack Hillary supporters? Hillary supporters dont advocate discrimination and threaten entire classes of people. These various protesters arent angry because Trump wants to renegotiate NAFTA you know. This isnt about conservative vs liberal policy preferences. This is about a total moron sitting in the oval office insulting and threatening and acting against individuals and classes of people and governments willy nilly all across the nation and world. There is zero equivalence.

And there are more, and more dangerous, right wing extremists than liberal dangers. This is the opinion of law enforcemnt from FBI down to local.

Of course all extremists are nut jobs. That has been stated repeatedly.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by StanleysOwl

Apparently you havent read the posts in this thread. Just a couple here and there. Everything you are asking has been addressed multiple times. In summary law enforcement surveyed nationally agrees that their greatest ideological threat - presently - including now - which includes the past six months - are right wing extremists. Whether they have been visible in street protests lately or not does not equate to liberals being more violent as is being argued in this thread.

Why would anarchists attack Hillary supporters? Hillary supporters dont advocate discrimination and threaten entire classes of people. These various protesters arent angry because Trump wants to renegotiate NAFTA you know. This isnt about conservative vs liberal policy preferences. This is about a total moron sitting in the oval office insulting and threatening and acting against individuals and classes of people and governments willy nilly all across the nation and world. There is zero equivalence.

And there are more, and more dangerous, right wing extremists than liberal dangers. This is the opinion of law enforcemnt from FBI down to local.

Of course all extremists are nut jobs. That has been stated repeatedly.

In other words you do not condemn lefty violent people.

You keep trying to make the right look worse and both right and left are racist and bad. Both sides are full of scum.

Now be specific, do you condemn the violent Left protestors or not? We know you do the Right, but the Left?

[StanleysOwl]

Originally Posted by expatCA

In other words you do not condemn lefty violent people.

You keep trying to make the right look worse and both right and left are racist and bad. Both sides are full of scum.

Now be specific, do you condemn the violent Left protestors or not? We know you do the Right, but the Left?

In other words you can't read what was just written plain as the nose on your face. And which has been posted numerous times already in this thread. Amazing.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by StanleysOwl

In other words you can't read what was just written plain as the nose on your face. And which has been posted numerous times already in this thread. Amazing.

Still dodging condemning violent Lefty's. It is obvious you will not answer a simple question, so you must ... approve of it?

[StanleysOwl]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Still dodging condemning violent Lefty's. It is obvious you will not answer a simple question, so you must ... approve of it?

Haven't dodged a thing. As many times as you've asked you've been answered. You just wont look apparently. Amazing.

[Exitus Acta Probat]

This thread is almost moot, considering that Trump now apparently has ardent Zionists whispering in his ear and is acting in accordance with PNAC, whose plan is to topple all of Israel's enemies in order to make the Mid East a better place for Israel. Israel knew that the U.S. was going to get attacked on 9/11, which is why the Dancing Israelis (Mossad agents) of 9/11 had a video camera set up to record the 9/11 attacks.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStJ5BgadPs

And now Trump has taken aim at Syria, another of Israel's enemies. Despite it being ludicrous that Assad used poison gas against his own people (in actuality it was a Mossad sponsored false flag operation designed to lure the U.S. into acting on behalf of Israel as Israel has done previously in the cases of The Lavon Affair, the USS Liberty attack, and 9/11), we nevertheless have once again done Israel's bidding to the chagrin of quite a number of well-informed traditional conservatives who supported Trump.

So who really cares anymore...

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

This thread is almost moot, considering that Trump now apparently has ardent Zionists whispering in his ear and is acting in accordance with PNAC, whose plan is to topple all of Israel's enemies in order to make the Mid East a better place for Israel. Israel knew that the U.S. was going to get attacked on 9/11, which is why the Dancing Israelis (Mossad agents) of 9/11 had a video camera set up to record the 9/11 attacks.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStJ5BgadPs

And now Trump has taken aim at Syria, another of Israel's enemies. Despite it being ludicrous that Assad used poison gas against his own people (in actuality it was a Mossad sponsored false flag operation designed to lure the U.S. into acting on behalf of Israel as Israel has done previously in the cases of The Lavon Affair, the USS Liberty attack, and 9/11), we nevertheless have once again done Israel's bidding to the chagrin of quite a number of well-informed traditional conservatives who supported Trump.

So who really cares anymore...

I'm not a huge fan of any war hawk policies (including Obama's destabilization policies that pretty much ruined Ukraine, Libya among others, and Trump's recent attack in Syria) but I strongly disagree that "it doesn't make sense that Assad would use poison gas against his people".

Have you actually been paying attention to what Assad forces have been doing the past 5 years?