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Originally Posted by Tokinouta
Well, you were right, pro-vax, anti-vax is obviously a polarized issue. The puzzling thing to me is why, why when people who don't vaccinate pose such a tiny threat to the health of others.
I think the only logical conclusion I can make is money. That would be my guess. Pharma must need some guarantee to make money off of vaccines. Nothing else makes sense to me.
There is very little to fear from those who don't vaccinate. People vaccinate to protect against it, they should just trust they made the right decision for themselves and trust their vaccine. No reason to hunt down the anti vax. Such small numbers, such a small threat to public health.
I would feel this way whether I agreed or didn't agree with vaccine effectiveness. The numbers just aren't there to justify the assault.
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Actually, said people are a big threat to many others. Virtually every recent measles outbreak in the US has occurred because someone brought measles in from abroad. This is usually an unvaccinated AMERICAN who has been traveling. This person gets measles then exposes many others. We don't know who "Patient Zero" was at Disneyland, but we do know that's exactly what happened in the Ohio Amish outbreak, and many other outbreaks. Most of the people who get measles are also unvaccinated. Most of the DEATHS in the recent Romanian outbreak are of unvaccinated kids, some too young to have been vaccinated, but they caught measles from someone who should have been vaccinated. Most of the cases have been unvaccinated as well. I believe the death toll is up to 20 now. And measles is "the gift that keeps on giving". Years later, one can get a serious brain infection from it, SSPE, and die.
https://www.verywell.com/measles-outbreaks-p2-2633796
And lookit this:
https://www.verywell.com/costs-of-a-...tbreak-2633850
It costs a lot of taxpayer money, your money and mine, to contain a measles outbreak.
"For example, it cost:
as much as $200,000 to contain an outbreak in
Clallam County, Washington - high rates of unvaccinated school children in area schools likely complicated the work of containing the outbreak and the high cost
$130,000 to contain a 2011 measles outbreak in
Utah
$24,569 to contain a 2010 measles outbreak in
Kentucky
$800,000 to contain a measles outbreak at two hospitals in
Arizona
$176,980 to contain a 2008 measles outbreak in
California
$167,685 to contain a 2005 measles outbreak in
Indiana - unvaccinated 17-year-old catches measles on church mission trip to Romania, leading to 34 people getting sick, including an under-vaccinated hospital worker who ends up on a ventilator for 6 days
$181,679 (state and local health department costs) to contain a 2004 measles outbreak in
Iowa triggered by a unvaccinated college student's trip to India
The 2013
Texas outbreak cost
$50,758.93 to contain. With 16 cases of measles in that outbreak, that comes to about
$3,100 for each case of measles.
The two pertussis
epidemics (and that, like "fraud" is a very specific term) in California killed a number of babies. Finally after a lot of tippy-toeing around, it was finally acknowledged it was failure to vaccinate, not vaccine failure, that caused them.
Vaccine Refusals Fueled California's Whooping Cough Epidemic : Shots - Health News : NPR
The "Pharma Shill" gambit again.
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