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Old 04-09-2017, 12:06 PM
 
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Originally Posted by TigerLily24 View Post

Nonsense.
Biden made a speech, nothing more.
There was, and is, no "rule."

However, what we do have now is actual precedent for the nuclear option.
Are you going to feel so smug when that is used against your party?
That precisely was my point. The filibuster never worked in the GOP's favor to begin with, as far as Supreme Court nominations are concerned.

Doing away with it for SCOTUS nominations could not have worked to the GOP's disadvantage any more than having the rule in place to begin with.

One thing is for certain, however. As a result of the filibuster rule change, the Dems (and everybody else) got a new SC justice who is clearly vastly superior to the last two who were nominated and approved.

As to whether Biden's speech constituted a "rule" or not is largely immaterial, since he was clearly staking out his position that no SC nomination in the election year of 1992 would be considered by Judiciary Committee, and there is absolutely no reason to construe his statement as an idle threat.
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Old 04-09-2017, 02:15 PM
 
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No answers to his questions. Just what I figured.
Y'got me there the fastidious mental masturbatory tactics & sophistry finally tired me out. I'm only human.
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Old 04-09-2017, 02:22 PM
 
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You're right. I changed Americans to voters.

The majority of voters did not vote for the President who nominated Gorsuch or the Senators who confirmed him.
Authoritarian followers, are, in the final analysis, much the same, their Authoritarian leaders avoid scrutiny & their lapdog followers protect & provide cover. As Mr. Scalia noted, this does not resemble the home of the brave by any stretch of the imagination:

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Requiring people to stand up in public for their political acts fosters civic courage, without which democracy is doomed. For my part, I do not look forward to a society which, thanks to the Supreme Court, campaigns anonymously . . . hidden from public scrutiny and protected from the accountability of criticism. This does not resemble the Home of the Brave.
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Old 04-09-2017, 02:53 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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LOL, in your dreams. The big money interests who push these nominees dont care about alt-right nonsense at all.

Fakestream media could even get it right leading up to who would get the nod and they are all about knowing big money interests.
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Old 04-09-2017, 03:35 PM
 
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Y'got me there the fastidious mental masturbatory tactics & sophistry finally tired me out. I'm only human.
You give a name. You state what you see as the problem. You state what this person is doing but then claim it's secretive.

How does that jive?
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Old 04-09-2017, 04:01 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Judge Napolitano... Next nominee.
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Old 04-09-2017, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Judge Napolitano... Next nominee.
That's if a Justice is to step down or die. Well unless Trump and the Republicans will pull an FDR like court-packing...
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Old 04-09-2017, 05:12 PM
 
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That's if a Justice is to step down or die. Well unless Trump and the Republicans will pull an FDR like court-packing...
The (D)'s will do that the first chance they get. There will be nothing the (R)'s will be able to do either.
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Old 04-09-2017, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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The (D)'s will do that the first chance they get. There will be nothing the (R)'s will be able to do either.
I think you have the R's and D's mixed up...
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Old 04-09-2017, 05:25 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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The democrats have become the opposition party, now that's funny, where have you been for the last 8 years. I heard some republican senators indicate we could go another 4 years without a replacement for Scalia if Clinton were elected. You will be happy to know that wasn't against the constitution either, but now we have a new rule.
Now that's funny, because the Republicans gave Barack Obama everything he wanted.

I am aware that the Constitution does not specify that there must be nine justices on the high court.
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