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No,and that is the reason the divorce rates are so high now. Women should pick a mate based on if the man can provide! I learned a lot from the Asian nurses at my job. They see things the opposite way.
You marry a man that can provide you with the lifestyle you want,even if you do not love him,and as time goes on and you see he is great provider you WILL grow to love him.
I made a thread on it-Marriage is a business partnership! Love is for Disney movies,you do NOT pick a mate because you "love" them.
Love does not pay bills. You will eventually fall out of love if a man is not providing like he is supposed to.
Wow I disagree with that mentality it's ridiculous anyway as far as the US goes. I would hope I never meet a woman that thinks this way. One of the things I'll agree with feminists on is in general they taught women that they shouldn't be a slave to a man and she should be her own person, and pursue her dreams. The divorce rate was only lower back in the 1920's because women were forced to rely on a man she had to stay with him even if she was miserable.
In the cultures these women you work with are referring to they consider providing to be the bare bones basic things such as food and shelter, not a 50k luxury SUV and an expensive house.
I would tell them I hope they realize in the US now in something like 35 percent or more of households the woman makes more than the man and I believe it's growing every year. I wager eventually it will be around 40 percent almost.
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I personally believe in hypergamy. It is what I strive for in my own relationships and it was taught to me by the elder men and women in my life. Its not about "the money" but I want to be cared for and in turn I will take care of my man.
Yes, I can take care of myself and I do well financially but I am a traditionalist do not want a marriage in which I am the breadwinner or required to contribute a large portion to the household income after I have children. What I have found interesting is that I have NEVER received a pushback from white or Hispanic guys when I talk about being a traditional woman but black guys tend to have a problem with it. But my (black) father believed that it was his duty to be the breadwinner and my mother worked only if she wanted to do so. He valued the beautiful home that she kept and that she took care of her looks. That may sound shallow to some but they were married for over 40 years.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Many Black women have married or dated down, and it usually doesn't work. Yet time and time again, black women are told that it's best to just forget about the man's standing. If he loves you, everything will magically fall into place. In the real world, everything does not fall into place, unless you make it happen.
Even though I earn a six figure income, I won't entertain a relationship with a man who doesn't have what I have or more. Many black women are afraid of being single, but guess what, being single is far better than being in an unfulfilled relationship that keeps one mentally and physically depleted and drained.
My standard of living is very important to me. And equally important is the realization that to truly compete in this global world and provide ample opportunities to one's children--resources are needed.
Wow I disagree with that mentality it's ridiculous anyway as far as the US goes. I would hope I never meet a woman that thinks this way. One of the things I'll agree with feminists on is in general they taught women that they shouldn't be a slave to a man and she should be her own person, and pursue her dreams. The divorce rate was only lower back in the 1920's because women were forced to rely on a man she had to stay with him even if she was miserable.
In the cultures these women you work with are referring to they consider providing to be the bare bones basic things such as food and shelter, not a 50k luxury SUV and an expensive house.
I would tell them I hope they realize in the US now in something like 35 percent or more of households the woman makes more than the man and I believe it's growing every year. I wager eventually it will be around 40 percent almost.
Jersey is correct. Asian American women practice hypergamy and tend to on average have a relatively high standard of living.
Black men always want to talk, negotiate and try to police and dominate us and our choices instead of strategizing and building with other black men so they can compete with the white man they so desperately want to emulate. The so-called "good black man" needs to focus on banding together with men instead of trying to bring black women back into the fold. They want the white man's status, his power, his money, and his woman but do nothing necessary to establish themselves as men in a patriarchal society. Just talk or complain about racism.
If only we could create a t-shirt with the bolded words and disperse it to EVERY Black woman in America!
African-Americans would have nothing without whites, nothing. The cities and areas you control are sewers and often resemble 3rd world conditions. In fact African-Americans have a higher homicide rate than many if not most African countries.
That's a major problem with the cultural mindset of African-Americans you think money equals good, so you'll do anything to get it.
So, you will admit that the African American has something? Perhaps that is why you despise them. You traded your women, children, brave young men, gold and diamonds to the European for what? To be colonized in your own country? To have your armies defeated? For haughty pride? As we speak the western world is still turning ancient kingdoms into third world battlefields while depleting their riches. It is because you made so easy many generations ago. History can't be written without acknowledging that the African American was the only one to get something for his troubles from the European.
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I am officially checking myself out of this thread. What I intended to be a discussion towards change has just turned into another place for generalizing . I am so disappointed.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Many Black women have married or dated down, and it usually doesn't work. Yet time and time again, black women are told that it's best to just forget about the man's standing. If he loves you, everything will magically fall into place. In the real world, everything does not fall into place, unless you make it happen.
Even though I earn a six figure income, I won't entertain a relationship with a man who doesn't have what I have or more. Many black women are afraid of being single, but guess what, being single is far better than being in an unfulfilled relationship that keeps one mentally and physically depleted and drained.
My standard of living is very important to me. And equally important is the realization that to truly compete in this global world and provide ample opportunities to one's children--resources are needed.
Sorry but this is extremely shallow if you're a woman that wants to find a good man you shouldn't be putting that big of a limitation on it. The reality is the vast majority of men don't make that much. I don't have time right now I'm getting ready for a vacation trip but when I do I'll post the statistics.
but as I've said on this subject before this is nothing new men are increasingly being criticized for not being good enough just because they aren't well off and I see a growing movement that I never saw even 10 years ago where a lot of men are starting to get fed up with it.
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Jersey is correct. Asian American women practice hypergamy and tend to on average have a relatively high standard of living.
In the context of a hospital they are American women with professional degrees most likely..their ethnicity has nothing to do with it.
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Sorry but this is extremely shallow if you're a woman that wants to find a good man you shouldn't be putting that big of a limitation on it. The reality is the vast majority of men don't make that much. I don't have time right now I'm getting ready for a vacation trip but when I do I'll post the statistics.
but as I've said on this subject before this is nothing new men are increasingly being criticized for not being good enough just because they aren't well off and I see a growing movement that I never saw even 10 years ago where a lot of men are starting to get fed up with it.
The majority of educated men who work for corporations and/or have their own businesses, make six figure +++ incomes. It is not shallow to want your partner to have the same or more than what you have. It's called being intelligent and looking out for your own (and future children's best interests).
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They are American women with advanced professional degrees most likely..their ethnicity has nothing to do with it.
Yes, and I have an advanced degree, as do a number of black women, therefore, I encourage black women to do the same as other women with advanced degrees. Why do you have a problem with this?
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So, you will admit that the African American has something? Perhaps that is why you despise them. You traded your women, children, brave young men, gold and diamonds to the European for what? To be colonized in your own country? To have your armies defeated? For haughty pride? As we speak the western world is still turning ancient kingdoms into third world battlefields while depleting their riches. It is because you made so easy many generations ago. History can't be written without acknowledging that the African American was the only one to get something for his troubles from the European.
We traded away the losers and got stuff we wanted in return.
I really tried but this wasn't the outcome I was looking for. I'm starting to give up hope.
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I am officially checking myself out of this thread. What I intended to be a discussion towards change has just turned into another place for generalizing . I am so disappointed.
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In the real world, everything does not fall into place, unless you make it happen.
