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Old 05-14-2017, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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By "nobody" do you mean men?
Of course, who else there is?
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Old 05-14-2017, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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This right here. This post is exactly what is wrong. This individual indicates that they believe that gender privilege (in this case, female privilege) is a good thing, while simultaneously indicating that they believe that gender oppression (in this case, oppression against men) is a good thing, while simultaneously believing that its ok to make jokes about children being kept from their parents, while simultaneously indicating that they don't care about children being kept from their parents.

This is how discrimination, human rights violations, crimes against humanity, and oppression happen. It's a combination of entitlement and dehumanization. And its right here, right in front of everyone to see.
It isn't gender privilege, it's knowing for a fact that the woman that gave birth is the biological mother there is no way at the time of birth to know for a fact who the biological father is. To determine the biological father requires a DNA test, or for the mother to state who the biological father is. Legally if a couple are married the husband is considered the legal father, if unwed it is up to the mother list the father, or for the father to get a DNA test. Sorry, but that is just how it works. Giving birth is pretty clear proof of who the mother is.
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Old 05-14-2017, 06:10 PM
 
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It isn't gender privilege, it's knowing for a fact that the woman that gave birth is the biological mother there is no way at the time of birth to know for a fact who the biological father is. To determine the biological father requires a DNA test, or for the mother to state who the biological father is. Legally if a couple are married the husband is considered the legal father, if unwed it is up to the mother list the father, or for the father to get a DNA test. Sorry, but that is just how it works. Giving birth is pretty clear proof of who the mother is.
Just a flimsy justification for blatant discrimination. Even in cases where Dad is not in dispute, Dad still gets 0 parenting rights. Care to explain that? Even in cases where a DNA test has been done proving who Dad is, Dad still gets 0 parenting rights. Care to explain that?
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Old 05-14-2017, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Just a flimsy justification for blatant discrimination. Even in cases where Dad is not in dispute, Dad still gets 0 parenting rights. Care to explain that? Even in cases where a DNA test has been done proving who Dad is, Dad still gets 0 parenting rights. Care to explain that?
Dysgenic - Life is hard sometimes but your thesis is not defensible and has been well refuted.

The situation does result in an asymmetric situation...but not for discriminatory reasons. And your approach would be as off sided as well - the dude is not laying in the bed with the kid squirting out.

Please go in peace. If you wish to make discrete suggestions on how the male can be more fairly served by the system go for it. But no we are not going to tilt the system to dude protection.

As an old boss told me when I was on a whine. "who promised you fair"?

Just for fun..We later crushed the old SOB and nailed him to the floor by doing exactly what he said was impossible. And we gloated over the victory and he let us. Once or twice in life the karma fairy strikes.
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Old 05-14-2017, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Avignon, France
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The architects of oppression are now the oppressed.... Awwwwwww.
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Old 05-14-2017, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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Furthermore, how is justice served by punishing innocent children for the crimes of others?
I wouldn't call a child living with the child's mother a punishment.
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Old 05-14-2017, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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Would you be supportive of a change in law that gave unmarried Dads full parenting rights, and Mom 0 parenting rights?

No, because the mother has already established parenthood by virtue of the infant being pulled out of her. Or airlifted, in the case of caesarian section.

Last edited by geekigurl; 05-14-2017 at 07:11 PM.. Reason: I can't spell good.
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Old 05-14-2017, 07:18 PM
 
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Dysgenic - Life is hard sometimes but your thesis is not defensible and has been well refuted.

The situation does result in an asymmetric situation...but not for discriminatory reasons. And your approach would be as off sided as well - the dude is not laying in the bed with the kid squirting out.

Please go in peace. If you wish to make discrete suggestions on how the male can be more fairly served by the system go for it. But no we are not going to tilt the system to dude protection.

As an old boss told me when I was on a whine. "who promised you fair"?

Just for fun..We later crushed the old SOB and nailed him to the floor by doing exactly what he said was impossible. And we gloated over the victory and he let us. Once or twice in life the karma fairy strikes.
I don't have a thesis; I've presented the facts. Neither you nor anyone else has refuted anything. You are openly supporting a policy of female privilege, discrimination, harming of children, and oppression.

The facts are clear. One gender gets full rights, the other 0. That is not right no matter how you try and spin it.
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Old 05-14-2017, 07:20 PM
 
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The architects of oppression are now the oppressed.... Awwwwwww.
More dehumanizing. This is historically how human rights violations happen.
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Old 05-14-2017, 07:22 PM
 
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I wouldn't call a child living with the child's mother a punishment.
So you wouldn't have a problem if Mom were given 0 parenting rights, right? Because according to your logic, living with Dad (and not seeing Mom at all) would not be a punishment to the child.
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