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Old 05-29-2017, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Well if we don't keep pouring money in are we still a "reliable ally"?
remember something--- we pay to play- we want our boots on the ground all over the world- we want world dominance even if sublime- it is the USA who has strategically planted our seeds everywhere for easy access to all parts of the world-- The interest to OWN the manufacturing and oil -etc is for us to protect- look at the BIG picture please.. .
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Old 05-29-2017, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Finland
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No, he did not have any sources, and clearly you don't have any either. Trumps own people are doing this because they are fearful of his incompetence.
I think he was being sarcastic
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Old 05-29-2017, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Wouldn't they have found listening devices by now ?
Yes, but why ruin a good conspiracy theory.
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Old 05-29-2017, 07:04 AM
 
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Well if we don't keep pouring money in are we still a "reliable ally"?
If Germany for decades has refused to meet its obligations that they agreed to - while the US has met all of its obligations to Germany and poured in more money than we agreed to ---- I find it odd that you are questioning if the US is the "reliable ally" when Europe is not even reliable enough to meet mild expectations that they agreed to.

I guess "Germany over America" is the new mantra of the American left.
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Old 05-29-2017, 07:06 AM
 
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I thought she was referring to climate change?
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Old 05-29-2017, 07:09 AM
 
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Well played Vladimir.
I am sure Putin is overjoyed. Exactly what he wanted.
Your puppet Trumpett served you well.

Trump laudes the Saudi's (who were responsible for 9/11 and the World Trade Center Attack) and strikes a deal with
them giving them more weapons that they can turn on us....then insulted and slapped in the face our friends and allies who have stood with us. It is disgusting.
Germany (and France) stood by us in the Iraq War? You don't remember the Axis of Weasel?
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Old 05-29-2017, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Caverns measureless to man...
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If Germany for decades has refused to meet its obligations that they agreed to - while the US has met all of its obligations to Germany and poured in more money than we agreed to ---- I find it odd that you are questioning if the US is the "reliable ally."
Exactly what obligation did Germany agree to meet, and when did they make that agreement? Exactly?

None of you Trumpies have any idea what you're talking about. You're just making complete fools of yourselves.
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Old 05-29-2017, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Florida
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If Germany for decades has refused to meet its obligations that they agreed to - while the US has met all of its obligations to Germany and poured in more money than we agreed to ---- I find it odd that you are questioning if the US is the "reliable ally."

I guess Germany over America is the new mantra.
They have not agreed to any obligation that I am aware of. The 2% target is just that, a target, not an obligation. The members are meant to reach that target by 2024.

As for the "reliable ally", US has been a reliable ally, but she meant those days are over with Trump in the WH.
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Old 05-29-2017, 07:16 AM
 
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If Germany for decades has refused to meet its obligations that they agreed to - while the US has met all of its obligations to Germany and poured in more money than we agreed to ---- I find it odd that you are questioning if the US is the "reliable ally" when Europe is not even reliable to meet mild expectations that they agreed to.

I guess "Germany over America" is the new mantra of the American left.
People recall your history. Germany and France being our allies is a good thing. Want those countries becoming military powers acting on their own self interests ? We act like they are not mighty nations on their own. If Germany decided to militarize it could become a significant check against our interests. Germany is big, rich, respected, and if motivated militarily powerful. Nationalism is not an issue with Germany right now, but do you want to rouse a sleeping bear ? Germany if it chooses to militarize, would have a armed forces more powerful then most nations in a relatively short period of time. Think of unintended consequences before acting like Germany owes the US anything at this time.
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Old 05-29-2017, 07:20 AM
 
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Exactly what obligation did Germany agree to meet, and when did they make that agreement? Exactly?

None of you Trumpies have any idea what you're talking about. You're just making complete fools of yourselves.
U.S. presidents have been complaining for years that Europeans aren't contributing enough towards NATO, or towards their own defense. And the Europeans ignore them, and then the next president comes along and ineffectually complains. If Trump wants to end this silliness by actually doing something about it, I say good for him.
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