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Old 05-30-2017, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Actually there are a lot of arguments to favor legalization of drugs. Here are just a few basic ones:

1) Prohibition does not work. People wind up getting the drugs anyway.
2) Since the drugs are coming from the street, people OD from them, which rarely happens if they are clean, legal, regulated drugs.
3) As long as they are illegal, they are funding the cartels, which are responsible for more deaths than the drugs themselves.
4) Look at the results of other countries that have decriminalized/legalized, like Portugal. The overall results are favorable.
Sorry, still not convincing arguments to me. But thank you for the answer.
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Old 05-30-2017, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Civil asset forfeiture has been going on for decades. Obviously the ACLU have done nothing to stop it because it continues to this day. Perhaps they have been bought off.
Still haven't read the link, have you?
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Old 05-30-2017, 07:15 PM
 
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Sorry, still not convincing arguments to me. But thank you for the answer.
You're welcome. But I just don't see how you can ignore #4.

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4) Look at the results of other countries that have decriminalized/legalized, like Portugal. The overall results are favorable.
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Old 05-30-2017, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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You're welcome. But I just don't see how you can ignore #4.
So Portugal decriminalized but did not make totally legal all drugs. They chose to treat it as a health issue instead. And frankly, not that I don't love being American, but our country can barely tolerate alcohol responsibly in comparison with most Europeans. Perhaps it's a culture thing. Even with Portugal's example, I still am not convinced it's the right answer for us. It does not appear many other countries followed Portugal either so perhaps there is something which sets Portugal apart or not being reported which keeps them from doing so - even those countries who closely align culturally with Portugal.
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Old 05-30-2017, 09:16 PM
 
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I thought it was the job of the ACLU to fight against this kind of thing. You expect me to do their job for them? If I had their 150 million dollar annual budget and an army of lawyers maybe I could.
The ACLU is a non-profit organization that is funded by donations. Unless you're contributing financially or volunteering for them, you don't really have any business criticizing them.
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Old 05-30-2017, 09:28 PM
 
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The ACLU is a non-profit organization that is funded by donations. Unless you're contributing financially or volunteering for them, you don't really have any business criticizing them.
So by your dumb logic Americans don't have the right to criticize Putin or North Korea, since they don't donate money or do volunteer work for them.
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Old 05-30-2017, 09:31 PM
 
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So by your dumb logic Americans don't have the right to criticize Putin or North Korea, since they don't donate money or do volunteer work for them.
I'm sorry. I don't speak monkey.
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Old 05-30-2017, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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So by your dumb logic Americans don't have the right to criticize Putin or North Korea, since they don't donate money or do volunteer work for them.
Wait, do you think the ACLU is a government agency?
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Old 05-30-2017, 09:33 PM
 
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I'm sorry. I don't speak monkey.
You could have fooled me.
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Old 05-30-2017, 09:34 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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True, and lawmakers love it, any time there is easy revenue coming in they are all for it, constitutional or not, the problem is it is those same lawmakers that would have to end the practice, not gonna happen. This is something the Feds should force an end to or at least the SC, there was good reasons to do this initially but anyone with half a brain knew this was going to be abused, and it has been time and time again.
Ron Paul fought this for years and now his son Rand, is fighting it.
It is not right. The loss of depreciation of the property is not taken into effect, either.
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