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Old 05-31-2017, 12:39 PM
 
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The brainwashing which allowed the government to obtain these powers was so successful that most citizens cheered when these laws were implemented. The War on Drugs was on.
I don't think there was cheering. I think it was just a very quiet creep.


its bipartisan too. both in those who want to take and with those who are outraged by it.
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Old 05-31-2017, 12:48 PM
 
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An important point to make here is that these funds don't go to the "police" as a whole, but instead are given directly to the department that made the bust. They use the money to buy more cars, vests, guns, etc., so that they can find even more victims. With that sort of direct incentive, it has turned them into rabid dogs. Justice has absolutely nothing to do with it.
It also offers an excellent way for individual officers to steal money. Officers take the money out of the vehicle, count it in their offices and record how much there is. If the vehicle owner says, "but I had X amount" they say, "this is all we found."

Not maligning all LE officers, but it does happen.
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Old 05-31-2017, 12:52 PM
 
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It also offers an excellent way for individual officers to steal money. Officers take the money out of the vehicle, count it in their offices and record how much there is. If the vehicle owner says, "but I had X amount" they say, "this is all we found."

Not maligning all LE officers, but it does happen.
They used to just steal our beer and weed. Can we just go back to that.
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Old 05-31-2017, 01:06 PM
 
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They used to just steal our beer and weed. Can we just go back to that.
Ha! I read an account of a guy whose was making meth in his van and he swore the officers took some winning scratch-off lottery tickets from the visor when they busted him. They said that the tickets weren't in the inventory of the van and that was the end of it. Not a big deal in the scheme of things, but nevertheless sort of crappy.
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Old 05-31-2017, 01:38 PM
 
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Good for her for sticking it out and fighting! It's sickening this happens in the first place. GD crooks with badges.
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Old 05-31-2017, 04:19 PM
 
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They used to just steal our beer and weed. Can we just go back to that.
I remember back in the 60s, they stole our beer.
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Old 05-31-2017, 06:10 PM
 
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This kind of $*17 really ticks me off. Grubby, greedy, nasty Government and the filthy Agents who support it.

No wonder so many people LTFAO when a Government-Goon gets "neutralized".
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Old 05-31-2017, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Trump's stand on the issue has lowered my regard for him... this single issue could get me voting democrat in the next election.
Voting Dem will not change civil asset forfeiture abuse. They don't care either.
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Old 05-31-2017, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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LE is a job.

LE does not make law.

It's a state, then county and municipality within state, issue.
LE chooses what laws to enforce and how vigorously to enforce them. LE CHOOSES to steal money from innocent people. They don't have to take the money.
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Old 05-31-2017, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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The assets being siezed should be in proportion to the crime.

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But in many many cases there is NO CRIME.
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