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Trump should have used the Senate vote for 2 reasons:
1 - To force the entire GOP caucus to go on record where they stand in regard to destroying our economy for the climate hoax. It is the only way Trump is going to be able to get some of those idiots to start working with him on other issues. If he boxes them into a corner on this, they will be more inclined to work with him on other issues out of fear he will cause them serious re-election problems.
2 - By rescinding this non-binding, non-treaty (that was being treated as a legitimate treaty) without involving the Senate, Trump reinforced the precedent set by obama, that the executive branch can set treaties as easily as issuing an executive order. He should have gone through the extra step of getting it rescinded in the Senate, which would have easily happened, then stood up and explained to the American people WHY he did it that way. (And if the Senate refused, he could have done it the way he did anyway.)
It was a missed opportunity to educate the American people on how our treaty process works and to force the Senate into a corner so they might be more amicable to work with on future issues.
Why shouldn't the wealthier nations have to pay the majority of the costs, they are responsible for the damage inflicted on these poor countries. The US share was $3B, rather small compared to our impact, but to state that the US has no money to spare is laughable.
On the receiving end of the largess who is receiving the money and what is going to happen to it? The wealthy nations will pay in spades. Will anyone but the holders of Swiss bank accounts or the bureaucrats passing goodies around benefit?
Trump should have used the Senate vote for 2 reasons:
1 - To force the entire GOP caucus to go on record where they stand in regard to destroying our economy for the climate hoax. It is the only way Trump is going to be able to get some of those idiots to start working with him on other issues. If he boxes them into a corner on this, they will be more inclined to work with him on other issues out of fear he will cause them serious re-election problems.
2 - By rescinding this non-binding, non-treaty (that was being treated as a legitimate treaty) without involving the Senate, Trump reinforced the precedent set by obama, that the executive branch can set treaties as easily as issuing an executive order. He should have gone through the extra step of getting it rescinded in the Senate, which would have easily happened, then stood up and explained to the American people WHY he did it that way. (And if the Senate refused, he could have done it the way he did anyway.)
It was a missed opportunity to educate the American people on how our treaty process works and to force the Senate into a corner so they might be more amicable to work with on future issues.
You make some good points but I respectfully disagree. The precedent set would have been acknowledging that there was anything to rescind when there really wasn't. The Senate never ratified it so the Senate never had a role. Also if Trump went the route you suggest there would be a good argument that a 2/3 vote would have been required. Getting that would be most unlikely.
You make some good points but I respectfully disagree. The precedent set would have been acknowledging that there was anything to rescind when there really wasn't. The Senate never ratified it so the Senate never had a role. Also if Trump went the route you suggest there would be a good argument that a 2/3 vote would have been required. Getting that would be most unlikely.
Obama never went the route of the Senate, which law dictates. So, if the Senate wanted to ratify this accord, then they would be acknowledging the executive branch can do a treaty without them. Win, lose, doesnt matter. Obamas admin skirted the law of our land, and this proves it.
Stop thinking about yourself. You are not that important...none of us are. Think about your children and their children. If we don't protect this planet the future is doomed. You have to look at the big picture
The problem is at this point in time WE are the only ones that have seriously worked to clean up and given the contents of the "accord" we'd be the only ones that would in the future.
Why aren't people mad about the other countries like China that are DOUBLE the CO2 rate that we are AND going higher with plans to go higher yet? The U.S. is in fact, and will continue working to reduce pollution levels with or without that silly Accord.
I'll say it again, when other countries actually move to drop their pollution levels then maybe a FAIR agreement can be forged.
I find it funny that people think taking a 100 billion a year out of our tax money, giving it to 3rd world dictators is smart business.. Read the accord, there are no guarantees or accountability other than yearly shindigs to party. Its a global slush fund like the Clinton Foundation.. Fraud.
Ice Age, Ozone depleting, DET on plants, Hair Spray, Oceans drying up, Polar cap melting, MMGW, etc etc All Liberal/Socialist scams. Cant anyone see how throughout the last century and now all they do is cry wolf.
A major earthquake shifted the earth axis, weather patterns changed.
Mt St Helen dumped more toxins in the air than man has in 10000 years..
Get a fricking clue and a Farmers Almanac..
I find it funny that people think taking a 100 billion a year out of our tax money, giving it to 3rd world dictators is smart business.. Read the accord, there are no guarantees or accountability other than yearly shindigs to party. Its a global slush fund like the Clinton Foundation.. Fraud.
Ice Age, Ozone depleting, DET on plants, Hair Spray, Oceans drying up, Polar cap melting, MMGW, etc etc All Liberal/Socialist scams. Cant anyone see how throughout the last century and now all they do is cry wolf.
A major earthquake shifted the earth axis, weather patterns changed.
Mt St Helen dumped more toxins in the air than man has in 10000 years..
Get a fricking clue and a Farmers Almanac..
Maybe one of the "weeeeeeee arrrrrrreeee doooooommmmmed people on here could invent a Catalytic Converter exhaust system or a giant Cork for those volcanos that you speak of?
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