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Hasn't it always been common for women to sleep with and otherwise support men from invading armies? Such as in WWII a lot of women in German-occupied areas freely joined, slept with and supported Nazi soldiers/officers and such.
If you want to seriously pursue this line, know that one way of recruiting men to armies was the promise they could rape the women of the conquered territory. Huge driving incentive throughout history which shaped the cultural and genetic landscape of invaded territory.
Women have been nothing but chattel, property, and pawns throughout history.
50 years of not just rolling over to the patriarchy that has never served them well (regardless of the culture or religion) and you accuse them of being disloyal, man-hating psychos.
If you want to seriously pursue this line, know that one way of recruiting men to armies was the promise they could rape the women of the conquered territory. Huge driving incentive throughout history which shaped the cultural and genetic landscape of invaded territory.
Women have been nothing but chattel, property, and pawns throughout history.
50 years of not just rolling over to the patriarchy that has never served them well (regardless of the culture or religion) and you accuse them of being disloyal, man-hating psychos.
Yeah. Great.
That's non-sense, women have a "winner take all" mentality and automatically flock to whichever males are winners/victorious, whether those males are "victorious" physically (in more primitive/violent times) or financially (in more recent times). The example with women willingly "offering themselves" to the invading Nazis in WW2 that has already been mentioned is a prime example of this..... so much for "patriotism" and "loyalty to one's country" That they do it voluntarily is the most telling/revealing part.
It's the same thing with young women flocking to ISIS guys and Islam in general, the ISIS guys are seen as alpha males and also have that "dangerous" aire to them which women love.
That's non-sense, women have a "winner take all" mentality and automatically flock to whichever males are winners/victorious, whether those males are "victorious" physically (in more primitive/violent times) or financially (in more recent times). The example with women willingly "offering themselves" to the invading Nazis in WW2 that has already been mentioned is a prime example of this..... so much for "patriotism" and "loyalty to one's country" That they do it voluntarily is the most telling/revealing part.
It's the same thing with young women flocking to ISIS guys and Islam in general, the ISIS guys are seen as alpha males and also have that "dangerous" aire to them which women love.
That's a good testimony for the millions of women (in any of the countries) which were raped and murdered by occupying forces just for being women of whatever ethnicity or for aiding or being part of the resistance.
There were also men who aid and join occupation forces, should we say men are not loyal either? Rather flawed logic.
About the subject, the only reasons I can think of (and that includes other extreme Christian and Jewish sects) are brainwashed since childhood, plus survival instincts. I can't imagine living like some of those women do, i would have tried to escape asap.
For a while i was also confused by Feminists/women supporting Islam, but as i learned more now everything makes sense. On a smaller/local level this is also why women love bad boy types that beat them up etc. It all goes back to biology.
It seems illogical, but it isn't really.
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Feminism is essentially about fighting the "patriarchy". It's a struggle against Western men and the world they have created. That is its only real purpose. So Muslims can be supported or adopted as allies in that struggle.
Correct feminism is about white woman power and is about exerting power and control over men. They will only defend Muslim women if they think they can convert them to the westernized woman way of thinking.
In Muslim countries a woman that is a virgin is considered to be of higher value. Feminists won't have any of that and see it as a slap in the face to their movement. Muslim women in general have more traditional, conservative values than your average westernized woman and feminists will not tolerate that.
Muslim women will be indoctrinated and brainwashed into the stereotypical westernized white woman way of thinking or white women aren't going to play ball with them.
It's convert, or be cast out...just like the Rush song Subdivisions.
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Oh, right, lol.
As a woman, I'm getting less and less tolerant of extremist religion of any kind. I do not support Islamic women covering their heads or walking behind the man or any of the rest of the practices that demean them.
Same as some "Christian" extremists who are poor but won't allow the wife to help out by earning a living, yet go on to have loads of kids, don't have enough food to feed all those kids.
People have to adapt and do what is practical, not cling to centuries old, outdated crazy beliefs. The world changes--adapt and change so that you can survive.
...and my point is proven. Score. As you can see they are already trying to change them. "They can be my friend..as long as they act like a regular liberal W.A.S.P. woman from Boston."
That's a good testimony for the millions of women (in any of the countries) which were raped and murdered by occupying forces just for being women of whatever ethnicity or for aiding or being part of the resistance.
There were also men who aid and join occupation forces, should we say men are not loyal either? Rather flawed logic.
About the subject, the only reasons I can think of (and that includes other extreme Christian and Jewish sects) are brainwashed since childhood, plus survival instincts. I can't imagine living like some of those women do, i would have tried to escape asap.
The point is the women went with those "occupying forces" willingly and voluntarily, that's the most disturbing part of the phenomenon.
In comparison, yes, a few men might turn traitor during a war (there's certainly Benedict Arnold types throughout history), but by and large the MAJORITY of men have at least some sense of "loyalty" and "patriotism" and will resist the invaders. To be honest, men are much more likely to become deserters than they are to turn traitor/get in bed with the enemy.... that in itself speaks volumes to the basic sense of "loyalty to tribe" that most men possess and women seem to lack.
Democrats were the party of slavery and Jim Crow. Do you not know history?
Let me ask you this: what political party did Alabama Governor George Wallace belong to when he literally student in front of the door to stop black students from entering school?
And where did Southern Democrats go after Wallace got nowhere and the Democrat Party failed them? They became Republicans.
You could say a lot of religions are anti-woman if you read the texts. Look at certain Jewish and Christian groups where women are expected to have baby after baby and that's their entire purpose. How about Mormon sects who marry off young teenage girls to old men?
Plenty of "Christian" men beat their wives every night in this country.
Difference is mistreating woman, like the wife beater, is not institutionalized by the christian churches.
sharia is religon and secular in one and institutionalize rough treatment of women. It is their creed not so with christian religions
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That they do it voluntarily is the most telling/revealing part.
